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    because it would have to have been a broadsword(and we all know broadswords are ulgy...). Meaning all classes that can use swords can use it. I personally do not care about the sword, maybe because i have almace, but personal opinion i'm glad it's a rapier, means 'Probably' later on, there might be a scimitar, broadsword, etc. like it... who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charismatic View Post
    Yeah, all that's true but why didn't they just make these be swords that were of a type BLU could equip? That's the real question... sup with that?
    Who is the sword named after? What weapon did they use?
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    Last edited by Volkai; 05-23-2011 at 01:11 PM.
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    You act as if it's difficult for them to have just used a different name instead... they obviously didn't want BLU on these swords for whatever reason, that's the point here.
    Why didn't they? Seems silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charismatic View Post
    You act as if it's difficult for them to have just used a different name instead... they obviously didn't want BLU on these swords for whatever reason, that's the point here.
    Why didn't they? Seems silly.
    You're coming at this from the wrong angle. It's not about which jobs can use it, not to the people that made the item. It's about the story.

    Raogrimm wielded a Rapier. There is a certain list of jobs that usually can or cannot wield Rapiers. This is clearly Raogrim's weapon, and therefore the job list on it will be that of a Rapier. End of story.

    Had they made it a different weapon type, or named it something else, then it would not have been Raogrimm's weapon, an therefore likely would have been started differently.

    TL;DR - stats are based on lore.
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    Last edited by Volkai; 05-23-2011 at 08:01 PM.
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    Sounds like excuses to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charismatic View Post
    Sounds like excuses to me.
    Then you should have your 'ears' checked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volkai View Post
    Then you should have your 'ears' checked.
    I think the lore fits together fine, but I don't think thats why blue don't have it. Frankly this trumps so many blue magian swords.

    You get the mp of a level 90 macc/trial.
    HP for currently non-used breath builds.
    The dps is only a tier below Almace.
    You have better than the 10 STR from a magian str sword
    better than teh 10 vit from a magian VIT sword
    resist terror & steal enemy enhancements...

    This sword is jailbait for a blue mage. Blue mage will get more use out of this combination of buffs than probably any other job.
    For any spellcasting blue, this would most anything for physical spells. A very nice boost to QC & DT.

    SE seems to have had alot of trolling us in the gear this update. Methinks they are being sneaky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilk View Post
    I think the lore fits together fine, but I don't think thats why blue don't have it. Frankly this trumps so many blue magian swords.
    If you think the lore fits then you'd understand why BLU isn't on it... Consistency when it comes to the lore is one of the things SE has kept up with.


    Quote Originally Posted by Xilk View Post
    You get the mp of a level 90 macc/trial.
    +MP has never been important for any mage job let alone BLU so this isn't a selling point to what makes this sword great.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xilk View Post
    HP for currently non-used breath builds.
    Breath builds have been dead for a while because a lot of our spells can do much more damage and take far less time to cast and recast.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xilk View Post
    The dps is only a tier below Almace.
    Until getting Almace DPS is of little value because that WS changes the way the job is played, until then 80-90% of your damage will be from spells.

    Our best WS is Vorpal Blade aside from Almace if you gear/atma for it. Also the Attack and in some cases the Accuracy will do more for it than STR+1/VIT+10

    Our most consistent WS is Saguine which cares not about DMG(excluding dark/magic resist mobs).

    Our most used WS is Savage Blade, and for some Expiation both of which have much lower overall damage potential than the 3 I just mentioned. Yes they can break 1.8k (well savage has for me) but that isn't the norm.

    Also it is a Rapier which has always had lowest delay of the sword classes so this is really a bad example as if it was a BLU friendly sword the delay would be higher reducing the DPS.

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    It is a very nice sword that has situational uses at best even for the jobs that can use it. Stop whining over the fact BLU isn't on it and focus on other gear that BLU can use >.> though I guess this forum is more prone to whining over trying excel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    If you think the lore fits then you'd understand why BLU isn't on it... Consistency when it comes to the lore is one of the things SE has kept up with.
    Agreed.


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    It is a very nice sword that has situational uses at best even for the jobs that can use it. Stop whining over the fact BLU isn't on it and focus on other gear that BLU can use >.> though I guess this forum is more prone to whining over trying excel.
    See also 95% of all MMORPG-related 'public' forums.
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    It is a very nice sword that has situational uses at best even for the jobs that can use it. Stop whining over the fact BLU isn't on it and focus on other gear that BLU can use >.> though I guess this forum is more prone to whining over trying excel.
    eh? who's whining?

    I was just pointing out interesting comparisons about the sword... IF blu could use it. As you say, its a nice sword.

    I play the job differently for different situations, so actually I do rely on melee dps sometimes w/out Almace.
    MP has been a significant point for my galka blu when not in abyssea. There have been a number of solo situations where just a little more mp would have made the difference in the fight.

    It is just as easy for a dev to put the stats on a different sword. I don't believe lore is why the devs gave it to other jobs and not blu. They either didn't consider blu because of the lore as you say, or they didn't want blu to have this particular combination. Your opinion and mine are equally valid unless they actually explain the decision... so relax a bit.

    I think you actually meant to respond to someone else. I'm interested in the sword, but in no ways do I feel cheated because blu didn't get it.. If I want to toy w/ it that badly I'll level a job that can use it. :P
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