Raise the Minimum Requirement for entering Abyssea to Lv70 or 75

[Sparthos]

If they raised the cap to 70 or 75, people would just go back to smn burning jobs to 70-75.

Are you really going to compare the ease of access of Abyssea leeching to the relative difficulty in getting a puller/s and setting up a SMNburn?

During the age of SMNburn people were still EXPing, doing MMM pts and other forms of exp play. Now? Its Abyssea leeching or grind solo.

Big difference, not that I want to go back to LFP and specific cookie-cutter PT setups. I just find that Abyssea leeching will be one of the key factors that brings this game to its knees.

[Romanova]

During the age of SMNburn people were still EXPing, doing MMM pts and other forms of exp play. Now? Its Abyssea leeching or grind solo.

I'm in a regular xp pt as we speak. Stop exaggerating. Flagged for only about 5 minutes too.


I'm wondering if the people who seem to insist that parties don't exist, actually try to form their own parties, or sit in jeuno expecting them to get formed for them.

[edit] my party is in qufim, and there are 3 other parties here. old xping is not dead.

[Raxiaz]

Abyssea leeching is a problem in the game. You can't fix it now, as has been stated.

However, there is nothing stopping anyone from forming a small (2-4) party and killing T-VT monsters. You will find that that method will produce acceptable EXP/hr and you will wonder why you hadn't done so earlier. And if you're wondering where those other few people come from, you should have friends. LS mates. And lastly, the people looking for party. That's how the priority tier should look like when seeking members for a group. Yet people are ignorant and continue to /sea all invite x-y. They think a party MUST consist of AT LEAST a WHM/RDM/SCH, a PLD or NIN, DDs, and other jobs as necessary.

That's not true at all. Any DD subbing DNC can function as a main healer in a small group. A dedicated tank is unnecessary, and even if it were necessary there are jobs (like MNK, and SAM) that when paired with the right sub can perform just as well as a PLD, in a small group situation.

I dare some of you to try that. It's simple. Get a small group together, no more than 4 people, and go kill T-VT mobs. With the EXP adjustments they did in February, you'll be able to attain great EXP/hr. I am sure of it.

And if you don't at least try... then stop your complaining.

[Ravenmore]

The game has always been been based around getting max level and gear. Anything thing else your trying to tell your self is a lie. In the end even though you enjoy the story line and play for it doesn't mean that the rest of us do. Don't force your way of playing on the rest of us, cause at this point alot of people already have all the jobs they really care about at 70+ so still no low leveling if they up it.

[Sparthos]

I'm in a regular xp pt as we speak. Stop exaggerating. Flagged for only about 5 minutes too.


I'm wondering if the people who seem to insist that parties don't exist, actually try to form their own parties, or sit in jeuno expecting them to get formed for them.

[edit] my party is in qufim, and there are 3 other parties here. old xping is not dead.

Grats?

Theres 14 people flagged from 30-76 on my server atm. Average around ~20 during primetime.

Old school EXP is a novelty and if you get a PT, consider yourself lucky.

[Romanova]

Grats?

Theres 14 people flagged from 30-76 on my server atm. Average around ~20 during primetime.

Old school EXP is a novelty and if you get a PT, consider yourself lucky.

that's two parties right there with the right jobs. and again ALL I DO IS REGULAR PTS.

and count how many actual parties are already out there xping.


it is not dead, I think in all the regular partying I've done, I've had maybe 2 days where I got unlucky.


Again, even if there were 100 people seeking the tank to DD ratio would still slow it down to where it's at currently.

Anyone thinking otherwise either a. is too lazy to make their own parties b. have their nostaglia glasses on backwards.

[Akujima]

ALL I DO IS REGULAR PTS.

So then why are you on here defending Abyssea Leeching?

[Sparthos]

that's two parties right there with the right jobs. and again ALL I DO IS REGULAR PTS.

and count how many actual parties are already out there xping.


it is not dead, I think in all the regular partying I've done, I've had maybe 2 days where I got unlucky.


Again, even if there were 100 people seeking the tank to DD ratio would still slow it down to where it's at currently.

Anyone thinking otherwise either a. is too lazy to make their own parties b. have their nostaglia glasses on backwards.

Current EXP PTs on Lakshmi:

ERon(S): 0
Wajaom: 0
MMM: 0
Cad Mire: 0
Altepa: 1
Thickets: 0

Dude, im glad you've found EXP parties but the reality is that they are something in the past and made so because of rampant Abyssea leeching. For someone logging in, you'd be hard pressed to make a PT because:

A. Most people rather leech.
B. Getting a rep if someone leaves is a nightmare.
C. Old EXP was already bad if you didn't have proper resources.

This has nothing to do with tanks cause gasp, you don't need them in a meleeburn. What this has to do with is the fact that Abyssea has a superior way to level and thus people do not want to go back to horribly slow EXP.

If you're a new player this is doubly so because it means you'll be soloing a majority of the time (no keys to leech, not enough willing to pt cause of leeching) which leads to tedium, frustration and eventually quitting. You can say the same thing existed before Abyssea but at least then you knew others were suffering along side you.

You can keep saying that people aren't "trying" hard enough though.

[Romanova]

So then why are you on here defending Abyssea Leeching?

I see nothing wrong with people having options?

As I said, (I don't want to sound misleading,) I did leech only once, because I have two toons and I am working towards putting all my jobs onto one toon since I hate dual boxing. I had some extra gil so leeched on my rdm.

However, for me, I love my gil more than I love my xp XD. XP the old way is free, whereas I have to pay to leech (god knows I already spend enough on nin tools as it is).

If I could leech for free I probably would.

But I also don't mind xp the old way too much.


To put it in perspective, if SE didn't allow us to xp the old way at all then I would be up in arms with you. I like choices, I am more than willing to take an outside look and say "even if I don't like X I can see why others do, and they pay just as much money to play this game as I do"


But again I've had zero issue getting into pts, and actually get htem fast than I used to (hurray for camps not being overcrowded!). Therefore I see no issue in this whatsoever.

[Raxiaz]

God forbid anyone actually communicate in this game. Hop on a lower level job and ask around to see if anyone's interested in leveling with you. It doesn't take but two people to have a better EXP/hr than a soloer, if they're smart about duoing.

I can't believe people sometimes. You're all so deadset that parties must be a certain way and take place in certain areas, when that isn't the case at all. You have disappointed me, FFXI community... After going through so much change and so many hardships, forming a small man group for EXP is nigh impossible for you.