Why Do You Loose Claim On Abyssea Mobs If Everyone Is Not Dead?

[Arcon]

So you want it to be impossible to unclaim a mob, short of zoning, dying, or calling for help?

Yes. I think unclaiming mobs while the alliance still has the will to fight it should be pretty much impossible, short of a total wipe. Sky gods had a nice solution with isolated islands once gods are popped, but that would be hard to do on all NMs. Maybe introducing the Confrontation status while mobs still have hate?

As if apoc-zombie'ing NMs isn't bad enough already? If your NM goes unclaimed, stop QQing, learn from it, and do better next time. Shit does happen sometimes, you know?

Shit happening (per definition) is shit. Why not fix it when possible? Apoc-zombie is nowhere near the same, there's plenty of times when no one is on the hate list during that tactic, so plenty of times when the mob is unclaimed.

The only reason to be for this game mechanic is to be a social parasite and steal the pops of others. I don't see any reason why this should be encouraged, especially on triggered NMs.

[rog]

Yes. I think unclaiming mobs while the alliance still has the will to fight it should be pretty much impossible, short of a total wipe. Sky gods had a nice solution with isolated islands once gods are popped, but that would be hard to do on all NMs. Maybe introducing the Confrontation status while mobs still have hate?

And if they do not have the will to fight? What if they want to give it up to someone else, without dying? They just have to die? What you are suggesting is not "pretty much impossible", it is entirely 100% impossible, even when someone WANTS to unclaim a mob.

[svengalis]

And if they do not have the will to fight? What if they want to give it up to someone else, without dying? They just have to die? What you are suggesting is not "pretty much impossible", it is entirely 100% impossible, even when someone WANTS to unclaim a mob.

You are making some pretty poor excuses for an obvious game flaw.

[rog]

You are making some pretty poor excuses for an obvious game flaw.

No, i just think there are better ways to fix the problem without creating more problems.

[svengalis]

No, i just think there are better ways to fix the problem without creating more problems.

How is it creating more problems by allowing a mob to stay claimed to a party until everyone is dead or zoned out? That makes absolutely no sense what you just said.

[rog]

How is it creating more problems by allowing a mob to stay claimed to a party until everyone is dead or zoned out? That makes absolutely no sense.

You do not see why it would be a problem for it to be completely impossible to unclaim a mob without dying/zoning?

[svengalis]

And if they do not have the will to fight? What if they want to give it up to someone else, without dying? They just have to die? What you are suggesting is not "pretty much impossible", it is entirely 100% impossible, even when someone WANTS to unclaim a mob.

They home point or leave the zone... It's not hard.

[rog]

They home point or leave the zone... It's not hard.

And if i do not want to leave the zone...?

Come on, i know you are not that stupid.

[svengalis]

And if i do not want to leave the zone...?

Come on, i know you are not that stupid.

Why would you continue to fight a mob you cannot kill?

[rog]

It doesn't happen outside of Abyssea. You can't even claim with certain spells in Abyssea which also doesn't happen outside of Abyssea.

wat

Why would you continue to fight a mob you cannot kill?

You would not. You would disengage, and let someone else take it. Oh wait, that would not work anymore, since it would be impossible to unclaim a mob without dying. See the problem?