[DEV 1009] Kings update, drop rates.

[wish12oz]

Are you saying you can resist with just barspells ? YOU DON'T.

Actually..... You said that, not me.

4) On an IT mobs at 90, 300-330 ish is required to cap. Therefore 210-240 is only required to resist 50% of the time which in essence means that :
* barspell from a WHM (~150 ?)
* addle (30 ?)
* int from cruor above ~90 (30 ?)
is already enough to resist ~50%-70% of the time. Let's say you need those 210 meva for 50% rate. The mob's landing rate is therefore p=0.5 (50%) and you take
full damage : p=0.5=50% of the time
1/2 damage : p*(1-p) of the time
1/4 damage : p*(1-p)^2 of the time
1/8 damage : (1-p)^3 of the time
When you sum up it works as if you take 67% of the maximum damage, which you pair with shell5 for about -25% which ends up being equivalent to : 50% mdt.

Why are you trying to argue against some stuff you already said?
You clearly said you could resist spells a large portion of the time with barspells as the only elemental resistance you have.

If so I'll suggest to go back to reading the magic evasion pages on the wiki (written my me)

Maybe you should go read it so you can keep your story straight.

inebefore : but you lose TP and it makes you kill 10 seconds slower. HAHAHAHA.

Why lose TP when you don't have to?
Also: you are the one arguing that you should give up a DD atma for a resistance atma, thus lowering your kill speed much more then swapping to an earth staff, why is the thought of killing 10 seconds slower suddenly funny to you? Or am I understanding this incorrectly, and what you are trying to say is that killing slow is ok, because efficiency is a bad thing.

It's funny how you went from "no you're wrong defending ring is useful" to "no, you're wrong mdt gear useful" to "no you wrong pdt gear is useful".

I fail to see how giving examples to show both aspects of the item as being useful is somehow a bad thing. If this is to complex for you let me know, I'll try to dumb it down in the future.

And a last word, all your exemple inside of abyssea are irrelevant.

They are all perfectly valid examples of things that have happened to me while I was playing FFXI (except getting hit with 3x colossal slam, I usually range the first and always the second two, but then I always main tank and main heal, so getting hit by a colossal slam after a 1111 merc strike isn't uncommon when I'm on my WHM and not my NIN when it's used.) How does that make any of them irrelevant? Because you can't deal with the fact that you are wrong?

Now, quit making off topic comments in the thread, you know you're wrong, just let it go.

Just so I understand this right....

Is the Savory Shank a 100% drop?

The pop item for NQ Behemoth from the KS99 is 100%, the pop item for King Behemoth from NQ Behemoth is 5% or so.

[MarkovChain]

Actually..... You said that, not me.

You can't read what's being discussed. You link to a discussion where a guy asked if mix and match mdt/ earth resist was better than pure earth resist, hence why part of the damage is being resisted. If you actually read what I said, which you clearly did NOT, you'll noticed that "barspell from a PIMP whm + cruor buff + adle" puts exaclty at floor resist rate at which point anything on gear/atma/carol contribute to resisting. So yeah, there is no way you resist anything while wearing ZERO resist gear or atma or carols .

Why lose TP when you don't have to?
Also: you are the one arguing that you should give up a DD atma for a resistance atma, thus lowering your kill speed much more then swapping to an earth staff, why is the thought of killing 10 seconds slower suddenly funny to you? Or am I understanding this incorrectly, and what you are trying to say is that killing slow is ok, because efficiency is a bad thing.

I think you are new to the game because there is abosultely nothing that you DD inside abyssea beside low tier NQ mob that die before you get 100 TP. Almost every NM is done by gimping yourself procing it with weak weapons and weak spells, weak weapon skill and such. Giving up "DD" atma on a mob like tunga is lol at best. You spent 5 minutes procing it while turning your back and then bam it procs, two ws later it's dead. Because 15% TA rate does SO MUCH when you are facing away from the mob. Jesus.

[wish12oz]

If you actually read what I said, you'll noticed that "barspell from a PIMP whm + cruor buff + adle" puts exaclty at floor resist rate [/B].

So it can be done? COOL!
Now quit arguing against yourself.

I think you are new to the game because there is abosultely nothing that you DD inside abyssea beside low tier NQ mob that die before you get 100 TP.

You're just doing it wrong. I DD everything.

[MarkovChain]

So it can be done? COOL!
Now quit arguing against yourself.

Floors means 5% so I'm not sure what you r" It can be done means" ... It means the in the best scenario you don't resist anything because your magic eva is to low. Which means that you are wrong obviously.

You're just doing it wrong. I DD everything.

Even when perma slowed and perma stoned on tunga ? ww

[wish12oz]

Floors means 5% so I'm not sure what you r" It can be done means" ... It means the in the best scenario you don't resist anything because your magic eva is to low. Which means that you are wrong obviously

I don't know how I am wrong when all I am doing is quoting what you said, which is that with barspells, cruor buffs and maybe addle you get the following result:

"When you sum up it works as if you take 67% of the maximum damage, which you pair with shell5 for about -25% which ends up being equivalent to : 50% mdt."

How is that a 5% resist rate? and why are you changing your answer to 5 now?

And I haven't fought tunga trying to proc red since level 85, I'm sure its a lot easier now.