Hey remember SC > MB? Make it required.

Having SCs auto increase lights in VW without a stagger would be kinda kewl.

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Originally Posted by Insaniac

Having SCs auto increase lights in VW without a stagger would be kinda kewl.

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Not really, take the ability to red stagger out of mages hands and what's the point of bringing any that's not a whm? more so what's the point of bringing anything other than cors and sams?

stop being lazy and just type not everyone wants to hear another guys voice or w/e i dont i perfer typeing

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

Skillchains were also being fully resisted by Pil too, to stay on topic. 1.5k Wildfire closed a 91 damage Darkness, and the Light SCs that the Mnk was self-SC'ing weren't doing much better.

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probably because you're making a skillchain that doesn't fit the monster's weakness, had you made light, it would have yielded fire or wind damage which is a caturae's weakness.

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Originally Posted by Phafi

probably because you're making a skillchain that doesn't fit the monster's weakness, had you made light, it would have yielded fire or wind damage which is a caturae's weakness.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

Skillchains were also being fully resisted by Pil too, to stay on topic. 1.5k Wildfire closed a 91 damage Darkness, and the Light SCs that the Mnk was self-SC'ing weren't doing much better.

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Small sample size, obviously, but I certainly didn't see any full damage lights go off.

SC+MB with a horde of BLMs works under the assumption that black mages can do more and/or safer damage than melees. In practice, they certainly don't do more damage than melees, and I don't feel that they offer much additional safety either.

Someone's going to be tanking it, so there will always be a couple melees in range of things no matter what setup you use. Beyond that, as long as melees are only consistently in when they have Fanatic's up, black mages really aren't much safer than standard DDs. Their range grants them the ability to continue to DD without needing Fanatic's, but BLM damage alone isn't really able to hold a candle to Empyrean DDs or especially Corsairs that are rocking Discipline+Coercion+Tactician's+Miser's+Monarch's+Braver's+Stalwart's+the Crit one even if they're (aside from the COR) limited to only zerging when Fanatic's is up.

The Magic Burst +30% atmacite could be interesting, but again would require such a BLM-heavy setup that it's probably not worth doing - especially considering how many procs you lose out on by both ditching melees and having Blms use damage spells rather than proc spells.

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Originally Posted by Shinzonx

stop being lazy and just type not everyone wants to hear another guys voice or w/e i dont i perfer typeing

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Um... what?

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Originally Posted by ManaKing

playing well

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Biggest misconception ever. Right on par with EXP grinding at 5k/hr 1-75 is required to learn how to play a job.

Skillchains don't have a skill aspect. It's so easy, a caveman could do it.

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Originally Posted by Brolic

Not really, take the ability to red stagger out of mages hands and what's the point of bringing any that's not a whm? more so what's the point of bringing anything other than cors and sams?

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You would still need to stagger for temps and I'm not talking about a 20% increase. Maybe 3-5% per SC. Maybe make it so SCs add blue and MBs add red. Most of your lights would still come from staggers but if you were 8% from cap and couldn't find that tasty proc you could just set up an SC or 2.

what are you suggestion lvl 4 skillchain ? cosmic evultions

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

91 damage Darkness skillchains, and the Light SCs weren't doing much better.

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Originally Posted by Phafi

probably because you're making a skillchain that doesn't fit the monster's weakness, had you made light, it would have yielded fire or wind damage which is a caturae's weakness.

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This is my favorite part of the thread.