The Grand Crafting Adjustment Thread

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Originally Posted by Rustic

Leveling up to 100 was generally a supreme pain in the rear pre-110 increase. That it's as it is now for 100-110 doesn't surprise me in the least.

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90-100 it took you 4 million gil to gain a whole level. 100-110 4 million gets you a single synth. And that's if there are even any ingredients to buy in the first place.

90-100 you could make panther masks to get to 100, then try to make money by HQ'ing dusk gloves. 100-110 you have to skill up on today's dusk gloves.

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Originally Posted by Rustic

If they jump it to 120 for Adoulin, I expect we'll see 100-110 become easier and 111-120 be equally arduous.

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That'd require them to make the 100-110 synthesis materials to drop from abyssea gold chests, or another equivalent. Because without flooding the market with that material, 90-100 wouldn't have gotten any easier. One could argue that it would have gotten even harder, since not only would the materials be the same price, there'd be less of them available due to lower demand for the end result.

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Originally Posted by Louispv

90-100 it took you 4 million gil to gain a whole level. 100-110 4 million gets you a single synth. And that's if there are even any ingredients to buy in the first place.

90-100 you could make panther masks to get to 100, then try to make money by HQ'ing dusk gloves. 100-110 you have to skill up on today's dusk gloves.

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*nods* S-E seems to like to choke endgame crafting by making it totally depend on HNM/event raw materials. Since there's no way no matter how expensive to acquire these materials in large amounts...100-110 (and if it happens, 111-120) are mad levels.

I was sitting in Bastok with a fellow named Fasaga trying to get the last .1 or so for a skillup to (I recall) 104 or so.

No Shaper's Shawl. I swear, before I go anywhere past Artisan, I'm snagging one knowing just how horrifying the top levels are to skill into. Even if it's 1% better odds, that's still saving millions.

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That'd require them to make the 100-110 synthesis materials to drop from abyssea gold chests, or another equivalent. Because without flooding the market with that material, 90-100 wouldn't have gotten any easier. One could argue that it would have gotten even harder, since not only would the materials be the same price, there'd be less of them available due to lower demand for the end result.

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I'm expecting that if we see 120, 100-110 will get some new Adoulin recipes with local materials. That keeps Abyssea stuff that's supposed to be crafter-elite from crashing, but gives people chances to "catch up" before hitting the 111-120 wall again.

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Originally Posted by Rustic

No Shaper's Shawl. I swear, before I go anywhere past Artisan, I'm snagging one knowing just how horrifying the top levels are to skill into. Even if it's 1% better odds, that's still saving millions.

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I agree with that. Iv had 100ww with capped subs for a while now, but I'm not bothering touching the 100-110 without a shawl. Such a drastic price increase, and rare materials. I may not even do it for a long time even if i had the shawl. (Of course since i hate fishing, its looking farther and farther away)

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Originally Posted by Godofgods

I agree with that. Iv had 100ww with capped subs for a while now, but I'm not bothering touching the 100-110 without a shawl. Such a drastic price increase, and rare materials. I may not even do it for a long time even if i had the shawl. (Of course since i hate fishing, its looking farther and farther away)

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You don't need more than Fishing 26 to open "Inside the Belly". Then it's just buying fish and hoping for the Shawl.

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Originally Posted by Rustic

You don't need more than Fishing 26 to open "Inside the Belly". Then it's just buying fish and hoping for the Shawl.

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At 250-300k+ a fish, and reports of ppl around 0/200 thats not something I'm eager to try atm.

I thought u had to be minimum of 28 to do the quest. That only as much as +2 equip could be added to your lvl for this quest. (takes 30 to start)

Doesn't matter what it is, some responsibility needs to be taken. Making it possible to super level up killed the crafting market and nothing was done. 70%+ of what can be made to try to skill up is hard to come buy and not close to being as profitable as it is expensive to make.
New abjurations make me want to kick someone in the face. For the difficulty and price of making a +1, E V E R Y single piece of new abjuration should be epic. Alas... we have my signature >.>b

ok first off
this is coming from a Returning player from over 10 YEARS AGO
back then EVERYTHING was hard and people dreaded dieing becuase u die too much and people see it , and no one will invite you too there party at this point.
now no one cares....
anyway on too the topic at hand
Crafting / Conquest ITEMS / General UPDATE
What the hell is the point of Crafting or conquest items now?
besides the super high lvl crafts and the warp/reraise scroll " aside from these " there isnt one im told

1: Make Ore Stack to 12 . everything else is stackable for %$#^# sake

2: Make an Optional bag for miners / loggers / harvestors " only ore / lumber / wood / plantss can be placed in it" Space Crafting total Levels * 1

3: Add New Items too the Conquest Item List , Update them an Include new ones Even Genaric ones....

4: add Items Conquest voucher too conquest npc shop
" trade 10/1 conquest to voucher - trade conquest voucher too npc for item " item will auto bound "
and becuase it auto bounds no effect on the econemy other then lose of sales...
no more gill will be pumped into the system from this nor can the item be sold just as leaping boots

5: make item - Moogle whistle or something - Calls Moogle too pickup items - fees apply
number of zones * your total job lvls * 100

6: Update the Mog house , Add a Linkshell Wherehouse " Sharing items space "

7: Update the Mog house , make the room bigger and Remove the mog from the house... you already have the ability to bring up the menu and use mog ... or at least move em to the corner and DELETE the dam rug

8: Give Option in Shops too buy more then one ore at a time " if they stacked to 12 or 30 you could just buy em ...

9: Increase the price of Coper ORE 8 a piece is outragus , consittering they sell for 100 on maarket ,
and 4 of them+FC make u 2k

10: Give Aby a Limited runs per WEEK , your flooding the people with EASY money making everything else pointless

11: Keep the Warp Moogle in the citys , don't remove them

12: make Book Burns LIMITED per DAY , i played for almost a year last time
i never made 50
i started again 4 days ago and im now 55 DRK , i didnt even have a ADV job last time

13: Update the Gardending and Chocobo System too give better or more frequent Rewards

14: quit this nonsince called FF14

15: update Games Grafics

16: Reduce Cool down on Normal NM's seeing as you can go too aby and fight them all the time
why should non aby players have to wait 8 hours?

17: add Proper Decriptions too the real REQUIREments of Abyssle and such
exsample dont go in till 75+ " available 30? thats all marketing and you know it.

18: add Bot Check Spawn " monster apears are you human? yes no? type yes or no...
if you dont answer within 10 minutes you will be moved too a city
repeated failure in a day will resualt in Death Cast and lose of EXP after like the 4th time
prevents botters , this needs too apply too Fishing too , i dunno how they did it

but i ran into 15 people with similar names , same poles same fishing gears , casting and recasting at the SAME time . that Reaks BOT

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Originally Posted by Godofgods

At 250-300k+ a fish, and reports of ppl around 0/200 thats not something I'm eager to try atm.

I thought u had to be minimum of 28 to do the quest. That only as much as +2 equip could be added to your lvl for this quest. (takes 30 to start)

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When a single skillup can literally be millions of Gil, I'll take my chances at upping my odds early.

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Originally Posted by Rustic

When a single skillup can literally be millions of Gil, I'll take my chances at upping my odds early.

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Yeah, even if it takes 100 matsya to get the shawl, that's 40 million gil. At 6 million per synth trying to skill up, if it saves even 7 synths it's already made you money.

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Originally Posted by Louispv

Yeah, even if it takes 100 matsya to get the shawl, that's 40 million gil. At 6 million per synth trying to skill up, if it saves even 7 synths it's already made you money.

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Just to give people a simple example of "what it's like to craft with a Shaper's Shawl":

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/...psd56ca2a7.jpg