Job Adjustments manifesto Discussion

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Originally Posted by Yugl

Or instead of wasting a spot on SCH, you could add another DD. Minuet won't make up for the damage of another WAR or a DRG providing angon (Assuming you didn't have one earlier). Zerg situations usually have AoE healing covered either via PD or Curaga spam. Given that most of the damage during zergs comes from AoE spikes, I doubt regen will make up for that since most of the regen will have no effect (Capped HP melees) and will not regen fast enough. That's assuming the regen beats Regen IV, which is certainly not guaranteed (See Angon v SSJump).

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See: Rotations

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

See: Rotations

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Wouldn't you just rotate another bard then?

Edit: Actually, someone gave me a VERY good use for such a 2hr....

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Originally Posted by Gokku

i just wanna make sure they arent fucking with monk or giving us another useless JA *footworks* again.

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Its okay man.

You still don't have:

Dark Seal or Diabolic Eye!

Could we get a DRK follow up?

Perhaps, maybe.

Pretty please.

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Originally Posted by Karinya_of_Carbuncle

Is this a joke? RDM does have a big problem right now, but lolmelee isn't it. RDM was never intended to be a primarily melee oriented job at high levels and there's no reason to expect that to change.

The primary problem RDM faces in level 90 content is that RDM (and SCH) is no longer a useful healer! The game has been reduced to only one viable healer job and SE shows no indication of whether they even intended that to be the case. For both RDM and SCH, not a good enough healer + bad selection of yellow procs = unwanted job. Their unique spells are insignificant, or at least unappreciated.

Maybe, if the post-90 endgame doesn't have the enormous HP pools of abyssea, Cure IV will stop being junk, but even so, the fact that you have the same top heal as a BLM or BRD doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

There's no discussion (explicitly at least) of whether SE wants any job other than WHM to be able to heal effectively, or what plans they have to make that possible again at higher levels the way it was at 75.

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LOLPLD!!!!

Just gonna put this out there for those who don't know but, your CureIV with 40% potency is great and no one is gonna knock that, but CureIV outside of Abyssea on hard mobs is a near useless spell. The only thing it's going to do is cure less efficiently and generate more enmity. It's great in a pinch, but the reason WHM is so much better outside of Abyssea is CureV/VI. This is obvious for inside as well, and that's a dead horse...but having a smaller HP pool outside isn't going to make CureIV a good idea. That's why RDM and PLD tanks use it to build hate.

Haven't you heard from Pimpchan, lolCureVI, that leaves Cure V and cureskin!

Tranquil Heart was supposed to help alleviate the enmity generation but it's apparently less than -10 enmity...

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Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz

Tranquil Heart was supposed to help alleviate the enmity generation but it's apparently less than -10 enmity...

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For now.

Plus it is a seperate term, so it stacks with -enmity from gear. A little goes a long way.

All in all though Tranquil Heart isn't gonna fix the problem.

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Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz

Haven't you heard from Pimpchan, lolCureVI, that leaves Cure V and cureskin!

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For now, who knows, they may up the cap on MND/VIT for cures, or make it so Cure VI cures better the higher level you go.

We still got a ways to go yet.

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Originally Posted by Yugl

Wouldn't you just rotate another bard then?

Edit: Actually, someone gave me a VERY good use for such a 2hr....

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You could. Or a COR. Or a SCH if this is worth using.

They should toss out the regain and just add in Physical Damage+ like in FFXII