Sure you can have different ways of leveling.. if so many people feel as strongly as you that the old way was the "purest" (lol) way of exping.. then you shouldn't have a problem making a party with them..Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeitzone
Why should your idea of how the game should be played affect others..
whats with the germans and keeping things pure anyways.. last time that happened WW2 started >_>
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03-20-2011, 09:11 AMFlunklesnarkin
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03-20-2011, 09:12 AMZeitzoneI have access to all areas, i played Sky, Sea-items ,Limbus, Campaign, Besieged, Assault, Conquest, Dynamis, HNMS, NMs, INMS, BCNM, KSNM, Escorts. Killed all till Bahamut 1 fight, then i waited for future shouts but there were never some. well im sure i forgott alot what i didQuote:
Originally Posted by Mrbeansman
Finished CoP, ZM, ToAU, stoped on half by WoTG, Beat Maat with all my 75 Jobs(old Jobs), crafted alot. -
03-20-2011, 09:12 AMTsukino_KajiAnd no level sync either, that would be hypocratic. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin
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03-20-2011, 09:19 AMZeitzoneGosh, i sayd read the older threads, i already sayd i got a whole ls for pting old style, but we dont want to be on a server with ppl who leechstyle becouse its unfair, dont you get that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin
And stop the Nazi shit here, we all know that the U.S.A./American Nation did alot worser things then Germany could ever do.
Slavery, Killing all native Americans, killing inocent vietnamese for a war america startet, Attacking Iran with a lie of Nuclear Weapons, Attacking Afghanistan after Bush faked a terrorist attack by ordering 2 Planes to rush in the twin tower just to get oil becouse U.S.A. drive such big cars that theyr oil reserves got low and they dont want to pay more for it. -
03-20-2011, 09:20 AMKazen
Finally I understand why my "logic" failed to make a connection.
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03-20-2011, 09:21 AMRamsosu mad?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeitzone
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03-20-2011, 09:22 AMFlunklesnarkin
right so you deserve your own special server rules because you are a unique special snowflake...
it's so intolerable to be on the same server as other people who have a different view on the game as you.. -
03-20-2011, 09:25 AMZeitzone
Im not mad, i just hate when Americans point witht he finger at germans becouse ww2 while american did and still do even worser things.
Im not even german, i just live in germany, im born in a country wich was under german controll while 2nd world war, my grandfather fought as partisan against the german nazis, but i am not insulting them, becouse germans are no nazis.
Serbian or American Nation has more Nazis than Germany. -
03-20-2011, 09:27 AMNachtHow are these other people affecting your gameplay?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeitzone
Honestly, what's the difference if they exp their job through leeching in abyssea or leeching via Smn burns? People are going to find the easy way to level because it's just more time efficient.
Furthermore, there's going to be gimpy players who can't play a job regardless of whether they leveled the job in pre-toau, in toau, level sync'd, smn burn'd, abyssea leech'd, etc. There's also going to be great players who leveled jobs via leeching. The method in which people level has little impact on whether or not they're a good player. It's more of a mindset. -
03-20-2011, 09:29 AMZeitzoneGuy, did you just come here for worthless flaming? Since your first post you do not do anything other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin
The style i want to play was first. So im not imagining a new way of playing, i just want the old way back. So it is not my way, its the way we all played.
And as all agree here the old way is harder to play. So its just logicaly that you Split servers if you use 2 different syles.
Same is in other games, there are servers where you only need half of the exp to level up as on other servers, or like in browser strategy games different runing speeds, so you can just put someone with speed 1 together with someone with speed 5 on a server, becouse it whould be unfair and has noting to do with selection like you trying to flame. -
03-20-2011, 09:29 AMRamsosYou know that like 1/2 that post is complete fantasy right? Slavery was not done solely in America. The Native American comment is 100% correct, but we invaded "Iraq" not "Iran" and the whole 9/11 nonsense you posted is pure fiction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeitzone
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03-20-2011, 09:30 AMFlunklesnarkinI don't flame.. I'm more of a logic torpedo.. I have my sights lockedQuote:
Originally Posted by Zeitzone
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03-20-2011, 09:32 AMKazenWouldn't that be more of an anti-logic torpedo? Little of the posts made by this guy have been logical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin
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03-20-2011, 09:34 AMZeitzoneThey effect my play by not beeing compactible with my way of gameplay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nacht
So they take worldspots other players who want to play like i do whould want.
On a other server there are too 1000 ppl and they are too splittet in 2 groups, so why not put from server A and B all ppl who want to play the old way together and give them the old way, while giving the other an different server with the new way.
In the past there were 1000-2000 players on the server and they all played like i do and there was no problem, now there are maybe 500 Player who want to play like i do an they are hard to get together, alot players whould play the old way if there whouldnt be such a tasty cake named Abyssea wich gives them quick exo without any playing. -
03-20-2011, 09:36 AMZeitzoneStrage that you always think that someone is a guy just becouse you dont like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazen
Anyways you both fit togehter, you should marry. -
03-20-2011, 09:36 AMRamsosIf there are 500 people on your server who want to play the way you do, I dont see the problem here. Theres servers who have barely 500 people at peak hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeitzone
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03-20-2011, 09:39 AMKazen
No, I just assume everyone on the internet is a guy. It's a way of speaking because more than likely it will be men posting on a video game forum as opposed to women. I find it completely hilarious that you of all people would try to correct my grammar when you can't even form correct sentences in the language of the forum you're posting in. I realize you most likely speak German; how about you go post on the German forums instead as opposed to giving everyone here an aneurysm trying to read your posts.
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03-20-2011, 09:42 AMZeitzone
Still 500 is alot less than it has been before, and it really is noticable.
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03-20-2011, 09:43 AMZeitzoneCorrecting gender has nothing to do with correcting grammar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazen
And what you wrote was very racial, just becouse i do not write perfect english you want to forbidde me to write in this forum. -
03-20-2011, 09:44 AMTsukino_KajiThe rest of them jumped on the conformity band wagon. Join us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeitzone
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03-20-2011, 09:45 AMFlunklesnarkin
There is no arguing logic with women.. the sooner men learn this the happier they will be >_>
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03-20-2011, 09:47 AMZeitzoneAnd thats sexist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin
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03-20-2011, 09:47 AMTsukino_KajiMen don't run on logic. The sooner wemon learn this the happier they will be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin
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03-20-2011, 09:47 AMRamsos
Serious question, Zeitzone are you Feiwong?
* Bad grammar : Check
* Cries about cheating : Check
* Acts like the world is against them : Check
* Refuses to give up even when multiple people tell them they are wrong : Check
* Makes racist attacks with very little provocation : Check
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03-20-2011, 09:49 AMKazen
How is it being racial? I'm only looking out for the well being of the community by preventing the spread of aneurysms from trying to comprehend your posts. The same posts that think Bush caused 9/11 (lol).
It's not even a matter of perfect English... even my English has errors and as such is not perfect. The English you have been writing is barely readable at best and I feel you would better be able to get your point across if you posted in a forum which was of your native language. -
03-20-2011, 09:49 AMZeitzoneThats a thing i agree.^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji
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03-20-2011, 09:50 AMZeitzoneYeah, but there i cant learn better english, here i can, by observing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazen
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03-20-2011, 09:51 AMTsukino_KajiRMTs were good for the ingame ecconomy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramsos
Ballista was a borring and pointless choice for a coop game. -
03-20-2011, 09:52 AMKazen
Oh if that's the case excuse me while I go babblefish my way through the German forums and see if they mind.
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03-20-2011, 09:55 AMZeitzone
they will not mind, as long you at last can build a spelling, they dont care if the grammar is correct or in wrong time period.
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03-20-2011, 11:28 AMMrbeansmanI'm sorry I didn't realize I was dealing with someone who does not act within the realm of sanity. Seriously I'm sorry I've enabled you to keep spreading your insanity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeitzone
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03-20-2011, 01:59 PMKailea_Nagisa
It is sad that most of you don't even realize it.... Abyssea is slowly strangling FFXI, so slow that you dont feel it. But trust me, if nothing is done, or if they even act on the stupid idea of lowering the entry to lv1, the game will die. I came back because Abyssea looked cool, and I wanted to level some of my jobs to the 99 cap, came back for my friends and LS that still play, and for a few other reasons, but I am not sure that I made the right choice anymore......
I am seeing the game I loved for so long, slowly dieing, and no one seems to care, they just want their damn armor......... -
03-20-2011, 02:15 PMMrbeansmanNo what really is sad is the way that you people cling to the past. The game changed and you're to preoccupied with nostalgia to move on and even entertain the idea that this change was for the better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa
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03-20-2011, 02:32 PMSkybrit
We will have to agree to disagree. Its not as easy as " just stay out of leeching alliances and go play the your old way". I Already had to leave one server because most jobs 30 plus had gone to Abyss and other areas were deserted. People left the game because the regular community was dying, the AH died (no need for food or gear or synthing), and new players would not stay. You have to realize that many people are not trying to "beat the game" and get to 90 and aquire the top gear. To a lot of players it is a community that they come to and enjoy some challenges with friends and a world they travel and enjoy. Its just two different game philosophies and because goals differ, so do methods. Unfortunately, the pursuit of one by some makes life hard in the game for others.
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03-20-2011, 02:50 PMDew
This many posts and pages and most of it is how this persons way is right and other ways are no good. It's simple you don't like doing Abyssea leveling, don't do it. You don't like Abyssea don't get the add-ons. You don't like the old way of leveling don't level that way. You don't like doing something this way or that way, don't do it. Complaining won't change the fact it's that way.
Simple fact is it's not your game, it's SE's game. Just because you pay your monthly fee doesn't mean everything should be your way only. Everyone pays the monthly fee. Simple fact is no matter what is changed in the game, things here won't change. There will always be people not happy that this isn't how they want it or that isn't how they want it. -
03-20-2011, 02:51 PMGreatguardian
@Skybrit: No. What I'm hearing is "Because the new way is more popular, there are fewer people who want to do things the old way with me/others." That is not a case of being impaired. That is a case of being unpopular.
Trends die. You can't make anyone play your way because it's "better", "more pure", or "Real FFXI". I'm sorry that you like something that other people don't want to do. But that's all there is to it. -
03-20-2011, 02:55 PMMrbeansmanI agree unfortunately you are the some not the others, you do understand this right. Your desire to change things will inconvenience the majority. The game has changed and for the vast majority who chose not to hang on to the past the change was for the better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skybrit
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03-20-2011, 04:55 PMValaris
honestly i dont think the argument should be about the lvling aspect really. about 80% of the zones sit empty because no one uses them and no one seeks partys at the lvls for those zones. so its all kinda just a waste really if they dont up the lvl cap or put a restriction like no xp in abyssea or dominion till your lvl 60+ and im being nice about that cause thats around the time people start taking jobs into dynamis or endgame stuff so thats when they should be able to benefit from endgame content. and on the lowering to lvl 1 to get into abyssea. ive said it in this thread already but if they do that they might as well just delete vanadiel all togeather and just move all the homepoints and moghouses into abyssea because thats all the game will be anyway
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03-20-2011, 08:58 PMZeitzone
I really dont get it why those players are so obsessed by leeching.
We dont want remove Abyssea, we just want to raise the entrace level to 70-75.
There is nothing wrong at that idea.
You still got your Abyssea and still can get EXP in there, you still get your pimp armors.
Its just one point we try to stop, the leeching, and for all those who are against this idea, the only thing they show us that they are gimp player, becouse they so intensively try to prevent the stoping of cheap leeching.
ANYONE who argues against the raise of the entrance level just wants to keep cheap leeching up his Jobs. Nothing else stands behind them Idea to keep the low Level entrance.
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03-20-2011, 10:04 PMRaenRyong
Link to your character. I am a proud Abyssea leech and yet I believe there is a good chance I am less gimp than you. If this is untrue, I will apologise.
The only people I've seen bitch about Abyssea leeching so far are those who do nothing in Abyssea but exp... or in the game for that matter.
EDIT: To be clear, I don't view myself as some undefeatable god of FFXI. Just if you want to cast a net calling countless people gimp, you had best have the strength to tie us up in it. There are many better players than me who Abyssea leech also - I am simply the first to make this challenge by coincidence, not because I view myself as top of the pile.