[dev1017] Job Adjustments and Refinements (Re: Ninja)

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Originally Posted by Vold

just sayin'

I doubt so very seriously that you will ever see Ichi overwrite Ni because of one atma that exists.

And for the record while on my Ninja, I have yet to use apoc because there are better options.

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RR/GH/Apoc is almost always the best atma combo.
Apoc is better in this order TripAtt > RR3 > instaCast.
Add all that together and Apoc is very nice for NIN because we will die at some point, being able to RR > 2Hr > RR without weakness is useful. RR also useful When lowmanning things which a lot of people do these days.
InstaCast is always nice when you get a free set of shadows, If SE added a JA that let NIN cast next spell instantly without recast would anyone really complain or not use it?
TripAtt obviously because well 15% is nice as well as more aftermath procs and able to tripAtt on Blade: Hi.

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Originally Posted by Louispv

In my opinion, Utsusemi: Ni with one shadow should be read as a weaker tier than utsusemi: Ichi with 3 shadows. Same with stoneskin. If a newly cast one has more hp to absorb it should overwrite, if it has less it shouldn't. Though maybe that's a coding nightmare, I don't know.

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This is not a bad option, I understand why SE doesnt overwrite NI however a check sum to look for <3 shadows really isnt that hard. It is however not a big issue considering other bugs/fixes that are more important.
I would like to see this happen however it really isnt a huge deal just remove buff before you cast it if in Abyssea.

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Originally Posted by Kristal

Or... make Quick Magic not affect non-MP spells. NINs or BRDs have little use for QM as it is.

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I really hope SE doesnt listen to posts like this. That is a horrid idea, InstaCast is nice for anyone that uses any form of spell casting. If it bothers you that much then dont use the atma but dont make the rest of us that like it as is suffer.

Quick magic is wonderful as it negates the recast time as chainspell dose. So it's good for everything. Insta-ichi is one of my favorites.

Just a thought after reading through this thread. What if they changed it so a Quick Magic proc would give a buff that makes the next spell instacast. Instead of making the spell that it procs on instacast. That way you would know when you are going to cast a spell instantly. Then you could plan your next cast accoringly.

I understand the problem but somehow managed to get away with never having it myself...

Maybe it's because abyssea got super easy and whenever shadows go down I just blood tank in evasion gear until I can get a new set up.

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Originally Posted by Armauk

Just a thought after reading through this thread. What if they changed it so a Quick Magic proc would give a buff that makes the next spell instacast. Instead of making the spell that it procs on instacast. That way you would know when you are going to cast a spell instantly. Then you could plan your next cast accoringly.

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Huh? How would you like it been introduced/implemented?
The way the system works now is that you have a certain chance that the spell you use will be casted instandly.
The way you want it to be would require that the system (servers) would remember that the next spell would be casted instantly.
Technicaly that's possible to do but it would increase the load on the servers.
In case you'll put the logic behind it client side - it would be the first thing that would be abused/forced by 3'rd party tools.