KI-popped-NM Stealing

Simple solution: burn KIs on death, not on pop.

Edit: Nevermind, that wouldn't work.

Change all force pop NMs to conflict status such as the Voidwatch NMs.

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Originally Posted by blowfin

Yeah, people claiming that you suck if things go yellow are idiots. Soloing an iron giant last night the thing went yellow halfway through the fight. Hate reset or not, both myself and the pet had performed actions on the mob and should have been on the hate list. No logical reason for it to have gone yellow, unless pathing is bugged on a flat surface... when i`m standing a mere 20 yalms away.

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You were far enough away that the mob could not take any action on you. Mobs can and will go yellow under such circumstances. Ask any BLM who spent time at the old puddings camp in Mount Zhaylom how many puddings they deaggro'd and depopped while getting used to the camp.

And yes, the mob pathing really is that bad. It's that bad in a lot of places in the game. For example, I accidently depopped entire trains of Brasscaps several times while working on trials in Grauberg [S].

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Originally Posted by Sama

This is exactly what have happened; I bet some sicken individual would even follow your shout group especially going after cat and wait for the yellow moment to claim your near death NM.

I agree with Blowfin the advantage is definitely on the waiting group and this should not be the way...

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I see. I've been doing it wrong all along. The trick to claiming mobs is to not claim the mobs!

Your groups is losing claim because they screwed up. It's that simple.

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Originally Posted by Eeek

I see. I've been doing it wrong all along. The trick to claiming mobs is to not claim the mobs!

Your groups is losing claim because they screwed up. It's that simple.

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Whether it's screwed or not that's not you can defined. This tread is intended for NM pop with KI.

If I pop the NM and I suck and lost, I don't want you to have it, is that simple.

Please don't comment if you have no suggestion, all your posts you are only saying how good you are and how others suck, that's not helping cowboy.

If I can't have it, nobody can! Muahahahahaha!

Other people just shouldn't be allowed to play FFXI. Everyone should get their own server. THAT would put an end to the problem!

Learn to play better and not die and you won't have this problem. It's nobody's fault but your own if you lost claim on a mob because you died or something. You deserve to lose your NM if you screwed up that badly. Seriously almost all of the NMs in Abyssea are such a joke. FFXI isn't a hard game.

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Originally Posted by Sama

Whether it's screwed or not that's not you can defined. This tread is intended for NM pop with KI.

If I pop the NM and I suck and lost, I don't want you to have it, is that simple.

Please don't comment if you have no suggestion, all your posts you are only saying how good you are and how others suck, that's not helping cowboy.

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The claim system is surely so deeply embedded in the game's code that it cannot be changed without drastic and unintended effects throughout the rest of the game. It's not SE's fault if you fail to understand how it works.

Wiping when Murphy's Law is out for your hide is OK. It happens to everyone. Just do everyone a favor and take it like a man. Dust yourself off, swear a few times, and go farm up another KI popset. It's ridiculously easy and you won't look like a whiny little sissy anymore.

As for this?

"If I pop the NM and I suck and lost, I don't want you to have it, is that simple."

If you're going to be that butthurt about the occasional wipe, just CFH it and scream profanities in /say and /shout while throwing an immature temper tantrum that'd be the envy of all the preschoolers across the country.

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Originally Posted by blowfin

Way to post on topic dude. I`d comment more on how you could suck less at forums but it`s probably a waste of breath.

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It's entirely on topic. A bunch of people are complaining about losing mobs because they go yellow when it's fairly obvious from everything that they say that they have not a single clue about anything they are talking about. They need to be told to suck less because if they weren't so horrible a bunch of players that 15 minutes of work takes "hours" they would have had enough time to realize how the claim system even works.
Is it annoying when you lose claim because a mob turned yellow? yes. But it is not completely random as hell and in order for it to happen you generally need to be wiping. There was even an announcement by SE with bloody charts for you guys to learn how things work.
Stop complaining about problems that don't exist.

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You deserve to lose your NM if you screwed up that badly.

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This is the whole point of the thread, being missed in one sentence.

Nobody deserves to get their mob jacked due to bad hate mechanics, period.

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Originally Posted by Eeek

Or for the BSTs and SMNs out there (who do have legitimate problems with the claim system), try to find duo partners for contested NMs or suck it up and take the risk of losing an NM during pet swaps.

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I never lose claim on NMs when I solo as a SMN. I think BSTs only lose claim when they have to charm another mob to attack the one beating on them. Which doesn't work in Abyssea.

So I'm not sure if pet swaps by themselves would affect claim.