Parses Dallas, parses. Actually every good SMN I know also has an Ukon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas
Hvergelmir WTF SE
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09-04-2011, 06:32 PMLeonlionheart
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09-04-2011, 06:39 PMDallas
Based on your forum troll standards, the only good SMN is one that brings WAR to everything but 3 fights, and any moron can BP/release like a champ. Of course they are the only SMN you know. That's why you can't actually talk about SMN in a SMN related thread.
Love my ukon! I'm special! -
09-04-2011, 06:53 PMLeonlionheart
Hvergelmir is pretty useless.
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09-04-2011, 07:04 PMDallas
Only if you don't play SMN. People who want an autoattack job for a sig clearly don't play SMN a whole lot. Let's just chalk it up to "bored WAR getting no attention from SE" so that you don't *have* to sound competent talking about SMN.
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09-04-2011, 07:47 PMSpankWustlerI can think of one guy who fits this criteria.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas
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09-04-2011, 09:13 PMReiterpallaschEspecially all those ele staves. Wtf was SE thinking!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulrunner
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09-04-2011, 10:04 PMSargent
As said before, if you want a weapon to deal damage, do the elemental staff trials. If you want a melee toy, do Hvergelmir. Why do Hver over the WoE version? Coz Kukulkan and Sedna are both complete jokes when done right. And the best thing about it? You put shame on Atmaless DDs when your ODD procs on SMN deal more damage then their ws (provided you use Crit atmas)
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09-04-2011, 10:53 PMKorpg
/sigh, I kindof knew that Dallas would come here to chime in his supposed "godliness" on this thread, but I figured that if I didn't chime in my opinion on the matter of this staff, then he wouldn't show up (he has some deep love for me I'm guessing). But here he is....
WARs play SMN when it is better to have a SMN with a disposable pet on the mob instead of running in there and dying from AoE death moves every 10 seconds. WAR plays WARs for the other 99.999999999999999999999% of the content out there because it is a stronger damage dealer, can tank better, can weaponskill faster, can produce more damage without WSing than a SMN with avatar can produce. The list goes on. SMN is only useful for a very limited amount of mobs, and half of those mobs can be done with a sacrifice puller instead of a SMN.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas
Give them an excuse to melee and maybe having the staff might have meaning.Quote:
Hvergelmir as a melee staff (used of course to melee) is perfect. MP = damage. I will say that +20 MP is lackluster for L95, especially since you can't improve our WS any further. A good Myrkr build is already close to 100% MP recovery at 300% TP.
If they are going to give the staff boosts similar to other weapons, they need to give the staff Regain. Let all mages have a reason to equip the staff whether they melee or not.
If your only jobs are SMN, BLM, and SCH, then having a Hvergelmir is not a wasted emp. Having any of the other 17 jobs leveled and geared, that staff is a waste. Even Redemption is better than a Hvergelmir. -
09-04-2011, 10:57 PMKorpgActually, he knows me. He has seen the damage output my WAR can produce, and he knows that I'm one of the better SMNs in this game (or at least, on Asura) by his multiple complaining about my killing T2 mobs in Heroes solo. I would LOVE to see you attempt that as a melee mage Dallas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas
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09-04-2011, 10:59 PMKorpgHow many times have you died to AoE spam? How many times could you have not died from AoE spam if you were not out there whacking on the mob?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas
Love my Hver! I'm special!