Hvergelmir WTF SE

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Originally Posted by Dallas

GG its obvious you are confused. Let me break it down.

For SMN, MP> everything else. There are two ways to get it. Refresh above and beyond perp, or through melee WS.

For Hver, the WS triggers aftermath.

For Nirvana, it does not.

Nirvana, poorly made, depends on Spirit Taker which can miss, or it depends on wasting every other slot and subjob and atma maintaining mp. Take your flavor of fail: 0 haste, 0 aftermath, or 0 avatar. Also, start playing SMN so you know what mp recovery means.

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You don't understand anything about Mythic weapons.

You can use Spirit Taker multiple times between Garlands without ever sacrificing a second of your Aftermath on Mythics.

The more you know.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

You don't understand anything about Mythic weapons.

You can use Spirit Taker multiple times between Garlands without ever sacrificing a second of your Aftermath on Mythics.

The more you know.

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I think he means that Myrkr doesn't work on a Nirvana though, since that is his defense in whacking on a mob and feeding it TP.

How would you even use Myrkr with Nirvana?

I would thank all the people who took the exhaustive time to reply to my thread, as expected the melee summoners showed out in force, I see next to no responses from backline players the scholars and blm's of ffxi of which I am part of their number.

Let me make my position known Relic weapons are worthless except to gilsellers and Epeen worshippers I pity you, Mythics are the same and SE's refusal to fix the requirements for them is infantile. Any attempt to make money off someone building a weapon is disgusting and you should be caned and boiled alive.

As for my staff, it's in storage, I'll slowly build it as a showpiece nothing more just to piss the melee summoners off because I like the taste of your tears. I've switched to a Masamune, it took me 3 days to get through the lottery pops and 1 day for the vnm stage. Thank you.

I find it amusing that for all the hemming and hawing I saw from summoners not a single career summoner I know or have ever met would ever seriously consider using the staff, but I know plenty of blm's and sch's who dearly wish they could make use of it. Way to go SE!

This post edited because I don't feel like being hunted down and burned.

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Originally Posted by Kimble

How would you even use Myrkr with Nirvana?

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That is the whole point. Dallas only thinks that one weaponskill for staff exists, because that is all he talks about. If you can't use Myrkr, there is no point in having the staff.

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Originally Posted by Soulrunner

I would thank all the people who took the exhaustive time to reply to my thread, as expected the worthless solo summoners dominated the discussion bragging about their pointless staff weaponskills, and micro achievements wearing cloth. I see next to no responses from backline players the scholars and blm's of ffxi of which I am part of their number. Let me make my position known Relic weapons are worthless except to gilsellers and Epeen worshippers I pity you, Mythics are the same and SE's refusal to fix the requirements for them is infantile. Any attempt to make money off someone building a weapon is disgusting and you should be caned and boiled alive. As for my weapon it's in storage, I'll slowly build it as a showpiece nothing more just to piss the melee summoners off because I like the taste of your tears. I've switched to a Masamune, it took me 3 days to get through the lottery pops and 1 day for the vnm stage. Thank you.

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So much winning.

Poor OP, thinks he's "Ukon war" cool now.

-edit- uhm, nevermind. :cool:

Question though: Why should "melee summoners" (as you put it) be Q.Qing over you building some weapon and not using it? I don't give a rat's behind what weapon you build. If you want to waste your time on something you're not going to use... ummmm, okay?

I might be missing some sort of meme or punchline here as I have a tenancy not to grasp them, buuuut....

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

You don't understand anything about Mythic weapons.

You can use Spirit Taker multiple times between Garlands without ever sacrificing a second of your Aftermath on Mythics.

The more you know.

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You are the BG calculator zealot, put up or shut up. 900 mp every 3 minutes, never resummoning. Since you have NO margin for error, I fully expect you to assume no lost time to finding a second mob. It's OK, if you knew melee SMN at all, you'd remember who taught you.

I don't understand what in the world you're saying.

Are you seriously intimating that a Nirvana SMN can't regain 900MP over 3 minutes through Spirit Taker? Is that what you want me to prove?