New 2-hour Abilities

A good question was raised as to whether these new 2-hour abilities can all be unlocked and utilized or if it will be similar to the new merit-able weapon skills where you have to decide which ones you want to unlock.

Once the level requirement is fulfilled for each job, you will be able to use all of the new 2-hour abilities. Also, just to reiterate what was stated quite a while back, these new 2-hour abilities will share the recast timers of the original 2-hour abilities, so players can choose which one to use based on the situation.

We are also planning to introduce a way to enhance the abilities via merit points, which will be the next step for adjustments planned for the latter half of 2012. While the specifics for this have not been decided at this time, the plan is to add this to each job category. Also, there won’t be any restrictions on which jobs you can enhance as it will be possible to put merit points into each one.

Finally, in regards to a question about thief’s ability:

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

Can we get some clarification on the THF ability while your at it? Is it a duration effect? or a one shot move?

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The major damage dealt will be a single attack. You can kind of think of it as the way Sneak Attack is used.

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Originally Posted by Camate

A good question was raised as to whether these new 2-hour abilities can all be unlocked and utilized or if it will be similar to the new merit-able weapon skills where you have to decide which ones you want to unlock.

Once the level requirement is fulfilled for each job, you will be able to use all of the new 2-hour abilities. Also, just to reiterate what was stated quite a while back, these new 2-hour abilities will share the recast timers of the original 2-hour abilities, so players can choose which one to use based on the situation.

We are also planning to introduce a way to enhance the abilities via merit points, which will be the next step for adjustments planned for the latter half of 2012. While the specifics for this have not been decided at this time, the plan is to add this to each job category. Also, there won’t be any restrictions on which jobs you can enhance as it will be possible to put merit points into each one.

Finally, in regards to a question about thief’s ability:

The major damage dealt will be a single attack. You can kind of think of it as the way Sneak Attack is used.

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...Yea, see, most of these 2hours are complete garbage, that won't ever be worth using over the already existing ones. Many of them are slightly stronger repeats of abilities we've already received (whm (divine caress), pld (palisade/reprisal), nin (issekigan), drg (spirit link), apparently thf (since it's just TA2)). C'mon now, camate, the devs can't seriously think reskinning JOB ABILITIES for the same jobs that already have them is acceptable, or anything other than absolute laziness, can they? Gear is one thing, but job abilities? We've been waiting for ages for these new 2hours, and they're so disappointing that it's painful, don't the devs have anything to say on all of the negative feed back?

So SCH's will never be used among others then.

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Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher

So SCH's will never be used among others then.

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Why not? I can recall several threads where people complained about pld not being able to keep hate in zergs.

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Originally Posted by Aarahs

Why not? I can recall several threads where people complained about pld not being able to keep hate in zergs.

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lolPLD holding hate or the DD's without a PLD killing quicker and surviving thanks to Embrava.

Unless you fight only ONE enemy (even then it doesn't take DD's long to recap hate) the 2-hour is useless compared to Embrava.

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Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher

So SCH's will never be used among others then.

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Outside of Aarahs' note on use (in which case Embrava is still better since melee will cap enmity within a minute anyway regardless) there is one other reason that this is a very nice ability. Whenever you have a party member that you find really really annoying, just slap this ability on them and watch that HP bar plummet.

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Originally Posted by Aarahs

Why not? I can recall several threads where people complained about pld not being able to keep hate in zergs.

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You bring PLD to zergs?

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Originally Posted by Delvish

Outside of Aarahs' note on use (in which case Embrava is still better since melee will cap enmity within a minute anyway regardless) there is one other reason that this is a very nice ability. Whenever you have a party member that you find really really annoying, just slap this ability on them and watch that HP bar plummet.

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Even then unless you had a means to restore it you'd be butchered for wasting a chance at Embrava.

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Originally Posted by Camate

We are also planning to introduce a way to enhance the abilities via merit points, which will be the next step for adjustments planned for the latter half of 2012. While the specifics for this have not been decided at this time, the plan is to add this to each job category. Also, there won’t be any restrictions on which jobs you can enhance as it will be possible to put merit points into each one.

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Dear Camate;

Would you be so kind as to provide any further details about Dancer's new two-hour? I was curious as to the possibility of meriting down the recast timers of Flourishes while under the effect of the new proposed two-hour, or if there's a possibility of this coming naturally with the job ability, possibility at a weaker state to enhance further at a later date. I think this would enhance the two-hour as it is enough to really prove useful to many different Dancer builds regardless of their main focus.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Finally, in regards to a question about thief’s ability:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/im...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by FrankReynolds http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/im...post-right.png
Can we get some clarification on the THF ability while your at it? Is it a duration effect? or a one shot move?



The major damage dealt will be a single attack. You can kind of think of it as the way Sneak Attack is used.

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I was hoping Developers would have known by now the utility of Eagle Eye Shot, which is, none. Just a glorified weaponskill.

If the Developers are out of ideas for useful THF 2-hour, here's one, modified version of yours:
For 45 seconds every attack done by a THF from behind the enemy will be treated as a Sneak Attack (including weaponskills) and modified by DEX the same way as Sneak Attack is. If there is another character between THF and the enemy, every such attack will be treated as Trick Attack, and modified by AGI. These effects will stack, so if THF is behind the enemy AND has someone in front of them to transfer hate, both SA/TA effects will occur with DEX/AGI modifiers stacking.

There, THF becomes useful in party situations, zergs AND becomes master of hate management (as promised long time ago by the Devs) for 45 seconds.

In before we promised no such thing.