Lower The Minimum Level Required To Enter Abyssea from 30-1

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03-23-2011, 08:27 AM
Vinc

Thf/Whm's stona is useful for trioing Dragua while applying TH.

Dragua>MNK ------------------ WHM ---------- THF/WHM
03-23-2011, 08:51 AM
magnius

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Originally Posted by Nacht

Some of you people need to get it through your heads retarded people are going to be retarded no matter how they level jobs. Even if a retard levels outside of abyssea, they're still going to be retarded.

Decent/good people are going to do decent/good at their jobs no matter how they level. Knowledgeable players are going to play their jobs relatively well regardless of whether they leeched in abyssea or not.

I'm just quoting this because it needs to be repeated.
03-23-2011, 09:16 AM
Yarly

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Originally Posted by Nacht

Some of you people need to get it through your heads retarded people are going to be retarded no matter how they level jobs. Even if a retard levels outside of abyssea, they're still going to be retarded.

Decent/good people are going to do decent/good at their jobs no matter how they level. Knowledgeable players are going to play their jobs relatively well regardless of whether they leeched in abyssea or not.

I agree, this SAME debate about 'too many retards' has been brought up since they curved the exp for each level to make it more linear. This was back in April of 2005. And people are still complaining...
03-23-2011, 10:15 AM
rog

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

Maybe 50 pages ago. Now, it seems to have spawned more civil discussion than the thread it was mocking.

And with much less looping too.
03-23-2011, 12:24 PM
Flunklesnarkin

The only lvl 1's you would see in abyssea would be veteran players anyways

a random new person isn't going to know to run to jeuno and get a traverser stone directly after installing the game for the first time..

They will probably be level 20 or so by the time they reach jeuno... lvl 1 would help out veterans more than anything..

Although I still think its a good idea.
03-23-2011, 07:38 PM
Yarly

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Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin

The only lvl 1's you would see in abyssea would be veteran players anyways

a random new person isn't going to know to run to jeuno and get a traverser stone directly after installing the game for the first time..

They will probably be level 20 or so by the time they reach jeuno... lvl 1 would help out veterans more than anything..

Although I still think its a good idea.

this is true and i think you have a point, new players won't book it to jeuno
03-23-2011, 08:46 PM
cnedra

good point but with the new update coming up warp npcs to abyssea are also available in ur home nation so then not only veterans will be able to get a lvl 1 job to abyssea
03-24-2011, 01:47 AM
Henihhi

Lol- walking to jeuno is hard? It isn't really going to matter one way or the other, since abyssea has been released there are enough lvl 90s that don't know what to do, whats the difference if they add few noobies to the mix?
03-24-2011, 02:07 AM
Lynchilles

I think this would be a great idea! I really hope SE lowers the minimum level requirement from 30 - 1 for Abyssea,
03-24-2011, 02:11 AM
Auredant

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Originally Posted by Henihhi

Lol- walking to jeuno is hard? It isn't really going to matter one way or the other, since abyssea has been released there are enough lvl 90s that don't know what to do, whats the difference if they add few noobies to the mix?

Don't know about you...but that first walk to jeuno was scary bussiness for me...lol. Those damn jugner tigers were sneaky. ><
03-24-2011, 02:48 AM
Kuishen

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Originally Posted by Auredant

Don't know about you...but that first walk to jeuno was scary bussiness for me...lol. Those damn jugner tigers were sneaky. ><

On my first time I died from Skeletons at night in Rolanberry fields, was so pissed.
03-24-2011, 03:31 AM
Henihhi

Lol ya- I was pretty lucky to meet a few people that were much smarter than I when i started that warned me to get sneak,invisi etc and also told me about setting hps the whole way up if i didn't want to waste gil on meds. I guess if you didn't know about the meds and setting hps every zone it could be pretty rough.
03-24-2011, 04:39 AM
Lynchilles

Wow. I think the OP is really onto something here. I support this thread and lowering the cap from 30 to 1.
03-24-2011, 05:53 AM
Flunklesnarkin

well they really don't need to lower the entrance requirement from 30 to 1

they could you know.. make lvl 1 weapons with damage normally used in lvl 60+ weapons so people can solo to 30 easily ;o

everybody starts off as an uber solo guy with an overpowered lvl 1 weapon ^^
03-24-2011, 06:14 AM
Nacht

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Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin

well they really don't need to lower the entrance requirement from 30 to 1

they could you know.. make lvl 1 weapons with damage normally used in lvl 60+ weapons so people can solo to 30 easily ;o

everybody starts off as an uber solo guy with an overpowered lvl 1 weapon ^^

but... but... what about those level capped BCNMs...
03-24-2011, 06:16 AM
Vivik

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Originally Posted by Kuishen

On my first time I died from Skeletons at night in Rolanberry fields, was so pissed.

I died in Batallia from tiger agro and had some "high level" (27 I think) whm raise me.
03-24-2011, 06:17 AM
Flunklesnarkin

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Originally Posted by Nacht

but... but... what about those level capped BCNMs...

meh.. nothing really valuable in the bcnm's anymore anyways...

inb4 kclub

that thing is dropping in price fast.. and I bet they add the 2~6 hit weapons soon from magian trial making kclub even cheaper.

glad i sold mine when i did ;o
03-24-2011, 06:43 AM
Yarly

spells from bcnm
03-24-2011, 07:13 AM
Vivik

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Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin

meh.. nothing really valuable in the bcnm's anymore anyways...

inb4 kclub

that thing is dropping in price fast.. and I bet they add the 2~6 hit weapons soon from magian trial making kclub even cheaper.

glad i sold mine when i did ;o

Ni is 1mil on my server. Just sayin.
03-24-2011, 07:21 AM
Flunklesnarkin

I wouldn't expect the prices of spells to last much more than 2 or 3 months...

It's the same as everything else in the game.. stuff gets farmed to death and becomes worthless again.. standard economics

Like I was selling perle pants 1 million a piece and perle hauberks 2 million a piece when abyssea first came out.. after a few months was just npc fodder.

Spells really do drop fast tho.. mages ballad 3 was like 300k when it first was added to game.. now its npc fodder too.. I'm sure there are plenty of examples.
03-24-2011, 08:11 AM
Rambus

Why is kclub getting cheaper?

it had 3 uses.

WHM off hand
DRK zerg
RNG mainhand and shoot ws

Nothing changed that for 90 yet, maybe OaT magian for whm but i dought it
03-24-2011, 08:18 AM
Sayelle

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Originally Posted by Rambus

Why is kclub getting cheaper?

it had 3 uses.

WHM off hand
DRK zerg
RNG mainhand and shoot ws

Nothing changed that for 90 yet, maybe OaT magian for whm but i dought it

It's primary use for years was Drk Zerg and with the level increase you can zerg with pretty much any job and don't need to use a Blood Eater strategy anymore, so Drks are starting to dump them while they can still get something for them would be my guess.
03-24-2011, 08:26 AM
Gunit

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Originally Posted by Rambus

Why is kclub getting cheaper?

it had 3 uses.

WHM off hand
DRK zerg
RNG mainhand and shoot ws

Nothing changed that for 90 yet, maybe OaT magian for whm but i dought it

people don't zerg with drk anymore.
03-24-2011, 09:12 AM
Ryland

I think lowering the entrance level from 30-1 is a great idea.
03-24-2011, 10:28 AM
HFX7686

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Originally Posted by Ryland

I think lowering the entrance level from 30-1 is a great idea.

I really agree with you.
03-24-2011, 10:30 AM
RaenRyong

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Originally Posted by HFX7686

I really agree with you.

This I agree with.
03-24-2011, 10:40 AM
Kailea_Nagisa

I laugh at sheep...... all you do is come in an post basically the title of the thread and that's it. How about you explain why you think it is a great idea, like the people that dont like it do?
03-24-2011, 10:43 AM
HFX7686

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

I laugh at sheep...... all you do is come in an post basically the title of the thread and that's it. How about you explain why you think it is a great idea, like the people that dont like it do?

Surely the answer is obvious.
03-24-2011, 10:43 AM
Vivik

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Originally Posted by RaenRyong

This I agree with.

Yes, agreeing with this, I am.
03-24-2011, 10:45 AM
Ramsos

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

I laugh at sheep...... all you do is come in an post basically the title of the thread and that's it. How about you explain why you think it is a great idea, like the people that dont like it do?

Its a great idea because it makes logical sense. A lvl 1 will do just as much as a level 30 and will do more than a lvl 90 in full aurore.
03-24-2011, 10:52 AM
Kailea_Nagisa

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Originally Posted by Ramsos

Its a great idea because it makes logical sense. A lvl 1 will do just as much as a level 30 and will do more than a lvl 90 in full aurore.

ok now give me a reason to lower it to lv1, that helps the game, not drives it further to "Abyssea Online"
03-24-2011, 10:53 AM
Vivik

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramsos

Its a great idea because it makes logical sense. A lvl 1 will do just as much as a level 30 and will do more than a lvl 90 in full aurore.

Ramsos, you gotta slow down dude, you're losing everyone at "logical".
03-24-2011, 10:55 AM
Vivik

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

ok now give me a reason to lower it to lv1, that helps the game, not drives it further to "Abyssea Online"

Moving it to Abyssea online is helping the game.
03-24-2011, 10:56 AM
Kailea_Nagisa

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Originally Posted by Vivik

Moving it to Abyssea online is helping the game.

uuuummmmm... yeah sure it is..... -.-
03-24-2011, 11:30 AM
Gunit

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

uuuummmmm... yeah sure it is..... -.-

how is it not helping the game?
03-24-2011, 11:32 AM
magnius

Really though lol if you wanna know their reasons just read a few of the 30 pages that are already up. Or you can read the other thread. It's the same idea tossed back and forth over 100pages.
03-24-2011, 12:03 PM
Yarly

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

ok now give me a reason to lower it to lv1, that helps the game, not drives it further to "Abyssea Online"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vivik

Moving it to Abyssea online is helping the game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

uuuummmmm... yeah sure it is.....

I see your question has been answered!
03-24-2011, 05:21 PM
cnedra

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henihhi

Lol- walking to jeuno is hard? It isn't really going to matter one way or the other, since abyssea has been released there are enough lvl 90s that don't know what to do, whats the difference if they add few noobies to the mix?

well i was in luck to have a brd/whm with me for that walk to get me to jeuno snk/invis and chocobo mazurka and gooooooooooo. But not everbody is that lucky and yes as new player its not that easy is some think.
03-24-2011, 05:25 PM
Yarly

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Originally Posted by Vivik

I support this. I'm sick of having to level to 30 before I leech to 90. Such a waste of time.

Also, you don't learn a damned thing about your jobs at levels 1-30. So this artificial level requirement seems unnecessary.
03-24-2011, 05:34 PM
Niklz

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Originally Posted by Yarly

Also, you don't learn a damned thing about your jobs at levels 1-30. So this artificial level requirement seems unnecessary.

That is such a lie.

.....

blu learns 25 things from 1-30.

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