Lower The Minimum Level Required To Enter Abyssea from 30-1

[Komori]

I'm all for it being brought down to 1 or staying as is. Let people play, how they want to and stop trying to go self-righteous.

[Dauntless]

This is a troll thread.

[Nacht]

This is a troll thread.

Whether or not it's a troll thread, it has just as much credibility as the other thread.

[Greatguardian]

This is a troll thread.

Maybe 50 pages ago. Now, it seems to have spawned more civil discussion than the thread it was mocking.

[Zagen]

A Retarded player Getting to level 90 fast does indeed make for a retarded player that is also level 90*

Fixed.

FTFY

Like it has been said before many many times find people who are good at the game, if you can't or they choose not to play with you, then well you should take a step back and ask why they don't.

My friend and I have leeched several jobs and sadly we play those jobs on par with others who leveled the "old way" we run around with or even better depending on the job, the big difference is we both care to research the job to see what is good for it.

Thinking like this makes people think THF/WHM is a good combination.

Actually not a bad farming job combo... but then again I'm guessing you don't like the saying "stuff is situational"

[Flunklesnarkin]

leveling up slow or fast doesn't prevent gimpness

bad players will always be bad

good players will always take the time to learn their job and skill it properly

Trust me.. i've seen plenty of poor players leveling up "correctly"

like lvl 60 rdm's using swords asking what convert was (was a horrible pt >_>)

or level 50 paladins without flash

whm's without cure spells or silena etc..

It's not a problem with efficiency of leveling.. its a problem with the player

Slower leveling just makes it more painful for people to bring gimps along.. but they always find a way...

like mormon missionaries.. they will always find you.. there is no escape

[Yarly]

This is a troll thread.

No it's not, your post is a troll post.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Check the link, it originally started as one.

[Greatguardian]

Check the link, it originally started as one.

And the moderators obviously allowed it to remain open. Since then, 50 pages worth of actual posting occurred. So no, it is no longer a troll thread, even if it's original intent was to mock.

[RaenRyong]

THF/WHM is a good combo! I dualboxed a lot of my Almace with NIN/WAR + THF/WHM.