FFXI fixed!

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Originally Posted by Sarick

And you see that I created a post with an example how it could be done. You seem like a smart guy, you say listen to people who know what they're doing. Well, I think with some genius you can come up with a solution. Instead of ranting about how bad things are and how you want options give solutions that don't cause more imbalance.

You want harder fights that give better items that make you LEET with stuff casuals CAN'T get, no that's not how it to do it. If you're going to make something hardcore make it enhance the drop rates with rewards everyone can already get.

The solution is when it's made worth while for hardcore they get the same stuff just better quantity or drop rates. This is how the NEO dynamis was setup.

If you agree with the tier rewards/difficulty system and aren't asking for special gear then I think a few people would stand up and say OK. The way you make it sound is players who play normal content should be excluded from special elite only gear. This is why people are against you.

Things can be balanced by making items drop better on high quality versions without excluding normal quality versions access to these items.

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I specifically said gear with like 1 stat more just to give people a reason to complete the content on harder settings. Thats not game breaking and certainly shouldnt have people who may lack the skills to complete the content on the hardest settings much to complain about. The people who've posted against in this thread feel like they should have the same gear as anyone else no matter what even if they don't do the same content which I disagree with. I believe you should have to do the content to aquire the gear. I've never asked for an event only the top 5% of the player base could complete with rewards no one else would ever see.

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Originally Posted by Arcon

Why? Why would people object to that. I honestly do not understand. Isn't it the entire purpose of games to be rewarded appropriately to how you perform? The better you are, the better the rewards should be. If someone is playing casually, and plays this game more for a social or lore-related aspect, they wouldn't care about the best of gear anyway.

This is not in any way, shape or form about exclusion or feeling superior. Everyone should be given the chance to obtain these items. But they should be required to play well for it.

I honestly cannot comprehend how anyone would complain that people who aren't skilled in something should be rewarded the same as people who are. That sounds completely illogical to me.

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He gave a good example.

You go in and get 300 currency in dynamis. Joey the pink guy gets 100 currency. How is that rewarding joey the same as you? Can he buy his next relic for 1/3 what you pay?

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Originally Posted by Ragmar

I believe you should have to do the content to aquire the gear. I've never asked for an event only the top 5% of the player base could complete with rewards no one else would ever see.

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You should stop buying Abyssea items then.

No one should use food they didn't make by your logic.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

He gave a good example.

You go in and get 300 currency in dynamis. Joey the pink guy gets 100 currency. How is that rewarding joey the same as you? Can he buy his next relic for 1/3 what you pay?

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Exactly, this is the reward you get for higher difficulty not better gear types but faster upgrades. These upgrades are already to much for the average players who don't have the skill sets to compete so whats illogical about it?

You can take the hardcore path and get your stuff before the players who have to work longer. In the end everyone wins at their own skill level and pace.

I'm confused here because Arcons post poses illogical more like logic isn't logical. To fully understand something he needs to see it in it's full perspective.

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Originally Posted by Ragmar

I specifically said gear with like 1 stat more just to give people a reason to complete the content on harder settings. Thats not game breaking and certainly shouldnt have people who may lack the skills to complete the content on the hardest settings much to complain about. The people who've posted against in this thread feel like they should have the same gear as anyone else no matter what even if they don't do the same content which I disagree with. I believe you should have to do the content to aquire the gear. I've never asked for an event only the top 5% of the player base could complete with rewards no one else would ever see.

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This is why people are against your proposal. It can and will be used to belittle others, NO SPECIAL GEAR IS NEEDED TO MAKE IT WORTH WHILE. :o

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Originally Posted by Sarick

Exactly, this is the reward you get for higher difficulty not better gear types but faster upgrades. These upgrades are already to much for the average players who don't have the skill sets to compete so whats illogical about it?

You can take the hardcore path and get your stuff before the players who have to work longer. In the end everyone wins at their own skill level and pace.

I'm confused here because Arcons post poses illogical more like logic isn't logical. To fully understand something he needs to see it in it's full perspective.



This is why people are against your proposal. It can and will be used to belittle others, NO SPECIAL GEAR IS NEEDED TO MAKE IT WORTH WHILE. :o

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Everything in this game can be used to belittle someone in the same way as gear so SE should remove everything or give everyone everything so everyone has exactly the same thing as everyone else. If not someone might belittle someone therefore its wrong and bad and must be eliminated. I swear some people wont be happy til they add the test server moogle you can get any item from to the main game. SE should start all new characters with everything so there is never a difference between A player and B player. All quests, missions everything complete. Someone might belittle you because you havn't done windy nation missions yet therefore they must be eliminated. We must all be exactly the same.

I feel sorry for those who allow themselves to be belittled by others for not having the absolute best gear. It's sad that they need so much validation from a video game ... I enjoy the gear Ive aquired but damned if im going to feel less about myself because I dont have X piece of gear.

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Originally Posted by Ragmar

I swear some people wont be happy til they add the test server moogle you can get any item from to the main game. SE should start all new characters with everything so there is never a difference between A player and B player. All quests, missions everything complete. Someone might belittle you because you havn't done windy nation missions yet therefore they must be eliminated. We must all be exactly the same.

I feel sorry for those who allow themselves to be belittled by others for not having the absolute best gear. It's sad that they need so much validation from a video game ... I enjoy the gear Ive aquired but damned if im going to feel less about myself because I dont have X piece of gear.

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Don't use this passive aggressive stance on me. I know all to well you want these rewards purely to increase your epen's. IT has nothing to do with making it more rewarding and all about self gratification from insecurity or selfish greed. You may try to say its otherwise but seriously, you've done a poor job at hiding the agenda behind your request.

I gave an example that suited everyone. It rewards hardcore and casuals equally at a different rate. The only thing you've promoted is giving the higher skilled players stuff to make everyone less skilled look like newbies. The way you promote rewards is different then me. You think players who aren't as skilled shouldn't be capable of getting equipment equal to you even if it requires a very slow tedious path. This is an elitist jerk attitude that proves just how broken things would be if you got your wish.

It's not about the gear breaking balance it's about the gear disrupting the community. After all if we don't have that awesome HQ gear that the upper 5% have we're not worthy by your standards.

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Originally Posted by Ragmar

No one (who says you shouldn't have food that you didn't make yourself) should use food they didn't make by your logic.

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There ya go.

I don't mind buying gear. I mind you saying that people who haven't done the content can't have the gear, since you clearly don't do the content. This is what is called a Hypocrite. You say one thing and do another. Your arguments are invalid.

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Originally Posted by Ragmar

I feel sorry for those who allow themselves to be belittled by others for not having the absolute best gear. It's sad that they need so much validation from a video game ... I enjoy the gear Ive aquired but damned if im going to feel less about myself because I dont have X piece of gear.

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And yet you demand that they add a special piece of gear just for you.

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Originally Posted by Ragmar

It's ok you've already admitted it isnt about elitests lording gear over you but about your own envy and feelings of inadequecy because others can do what you cannot. With how easy FFXI is, the fact that you cannot says everything anyone would ever need to know about you.

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Say what? did the Lamia just cut off your tongue? what are you yammering about? everything anyone anybody even understand? All I am reading here is how you want a SPECIAL content made just for you, so you can FEEL special for having beaten that extra special content and able to wear that badge of honor to bolsters your already ginormous ego - and stroke it even bigger enable you to tower over other players alike. Sorry to cut off your e-peen, glad SE decided to go to the commercial route and defang most of the special contents by opening the gate for everyone to enjoy after certain period of time has expired. Now go back sulking in your corner :)

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

There ya go.

I don't mind buying gear. I mind you saying that people who haven't done the content can't have the gear, since you clearly don't do the content. This is what is called a Hypocrite. You say one thing and do another. Your arguments are invalid.



And yet you demand that they add a special piece of gear just for you.

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I still have to be there in zone doing the content. I wouldnt be doing lesser challenging content asking for the same reward. The point of a merc is they are doing the leg work building the pops and killing the NMs so I dont have to drag my buddies along. This is much different than someone fighting one mob but wanting the drops off a more challenging mob. If you want the Neo Odin drops you have to be there and kill it. You shouldnt get that gear from old Odin.

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Originally Posted by Luvbunny

Say what? did the Lamia just cut off your tongue? what are you yammering about? everything anyone anybody even understand? All I am reading here is how you want a SPECIAL content made just for you, so you can FEEL special for having beaten that extra special content and able to wear that badge of honor to bolsters your already ginormous ego - and stroke it even bigger enable you to tower over other players alike. Sorry to cut off your e-peen, glad SE decided to go to the commercial route and defang most of the special contents by opening the gate for everyone to enjoy after certain period of time has expired. Now go back sulking in your corner :)

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QQ more you already admitted this has nothing to do with others lording gear over you but your feelings of envy and inadequacy over not being able to complete content or have what someone else has.