Job Adjustments manifesto Discussion

Needs more Automaton AI fix. SE WHYYYY!?!?

also.. I like the SMN Idea, can you fix the Elemental AI too? <_< if all they are good for is to siphon then why do they even attack or cast spells? -.-

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Originally Posted by Andrien

Paladin: Their only purpose is to protect/defend full time, not temporally. Adjust Rampert. Rampert magic shield should not work like Stoneskin, instead it should work like sentinel except it mitigates magical damage. Add another job ability to share the effects of our own buffs with the whole party.(Fealty and/or Sentinel for everyone) Paladin should stand out more with divine magic. Holy II etc.

Ninja: Shuriken needs to be addressed. Ninja can already dish out damage quickly at high speeds at close range combat much more effectively than their best combat skill known as Throwing. I'd like to see Shuriken adjusted in a way that they can deal massive spike damage if the player chooses to enter a stance for shuriken. Their are even some throwing weapons with base damage 250. Unfortunately those weapons are rare and can be carried in single file only. We need some more affordable Shurikens that is stack-able like that.

Blue Mage: Need more Blue Magic Points. Being stuck at 55 points is kind of tough in my opinion. Summer Breeze, (if nothing to erase we gain Regain instead) Autumn Breeze would be fantastic, and Spike Flail. Edit: also like to note that the mp cost and spell casting time should not be huge! k thanks^^

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Why wouldn't we get more points at 91, we got them at 81. Just because they don't say we will be getting them doesn't mean thier not coming. Before the last update they didn't even say sam was getting the next tier of STP. The only time I can remeber them saying a new tier of a JT was th3 for thifs since there was a big up roar over if they would get it of not. Drgs acc bouns 3 wasn't even mention.

You know the HNM spells are going to cost a lot of MP, on par with 1000 needles best case worst case we get to cast them under effect of our 2hour. With the spells found in the .dats we could make out better then most of the other jobs. They even finally listen to blus and revamp our 2hour.

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Originally Posted by AyinDygra

Red Mage
"We've decided to rename Red Mage: Oracle (From FFT). Forget the whole white and black magic thing and the magic fencing with swords... they're mainly enhancers and enfeeblers now. We're giving their dual magic side to Scholar and melee side to a new job that we're not talking about yet (Mystic Knight.)" That's what I read. "Red Mage" doesn't exist anymore.

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It is at times like this that I wish I had more space in the signature box, that way I could sig this and preserve it for posterity.

Glamdring: (wow just realized where i reconized your name from nice hobbit ref. >.<) i agree thf can do decent damage (managed a few 6.5k evisceration's x.x), guess i failed to re-enforce the reason for my agitation, its that the few abilities that are a part of being a DD as thf and make it unique are being out sourced with nothing of impact given back.

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Adding an ability that increases the effectiveness of phantom rolls.

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A welcome addition.

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Revising the potency of certain rolls.

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If this means buffing, very well welcome, if it means nerfing GTFO.

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Allowing three phantom rolls to be in effect at the same time.

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Now, I really hope that by 3 rolls they don't mean the new 11 bonus, cause that sucks.
Anyway, whilst good to be able to keep three buffs, PR recast time becomes an issue. Meriting this will most likely be vital, or else we can just start forgetting even bringing the weapons cause the time to deal damage will be very limited. I like having more buff capabilities since that's my role in the party, but at this rate I guess I'll only have the time to QD and WS.

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Revisions to job-specific merit point enhancement attributes.

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QD/PR recast merits -5 sec per upgrade yes please!!

"Adding a new spell that removes Charm from a party member." - We already know how to deal with charmed players.
1. Have the Blackmage kill them
2. Sleep them.
3. Bind them.
4. Gravity them.

I implore you if anything you should do "Adding a new spell that removes Amnesia from a party member."

Please fix automaton's AI before anything else for pup, this is THE priority for pup job update.

please give us attachments that can reasonably reduce idle time between each spell cast.

Rdm - seems you can give us all the enfeebles in the world, but just give us something to get us back in the game. My poor Rdm hasn't played in months, has been over a year since Rdm went to Abyssea, there doesn't seem to be a need for us anymore, except Dyna. I have blm, Whm, Blu and Thf they get to play all the time. Lol, funny how my rdm has the most af3 gear and only wears it in the mh.

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Originally Posted by AyinDygra

Warrior
Warriors are physical damage dealers. That's what they've been in past games, and that's what players expect in FFXI. Their use of many weapons is a key feature, and they see it as something to build on too. However, I like the suggestion in this thread about a Job Ability that lets Warriors switch weapons without losing TP a lot more than the example adjustments they listed.

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Hmm i liked this. I think this is actually something that would benefit everyone. It certainly allows more tactical use of some nearly useless weapons (pdt magians for one). Mages could realistically benefit from their empyrean staff ws (and even other ws that drain mp). As a thf main, this would be like the manna from heaven. We would no longer get annoyed about full timing such an outdated weapon like Thief's Knife for TH purpose.

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Originally Posted by Laphine

Mages could realistically benefit from their empyrean staff ws (and even other ws that drain mp).

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Just need to correct you there:

Spirit Taker doesn't drain MP, it converts damage delt into MP for the mage. Mystic Boon does the same for Club.

Myrkr is basically a glorified Starlight, where it does no damage but recovers MP (and in the case of Myrkr, removes one bad status effect).

The weaponskills you are refering to are Energy Drain/Steal from daggers, which the only mage to benefit from this is RDM. Unless you have a SMN or BLM who actually uses dagger that is.