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    Quote Originally Posted by Slatervonjager View Post
    Why do you assume that The people that answered me, and my friends are not level 50? Seriously, wtf is with people acting like levels make a difference in what you do or do not know. What is this, fricking WoW, or CoD, were the delusional think that being level 80, or 10 time prestige makes a difference in knowledge.
    You just can't fight hard primals at lvl 49. Nothing about delusions, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metabug View Post
    You just can't fight hard primals at lvl 49. Nothing about delusions, right?
    That doesn't mean they haven't studied up on them. No, they haven't experienced it (on that Class/character), but what makes you assume every Level 50 has cleared the storyline? Many just FATE grind up to 50 and then do the story quests and dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metabug View Post
    You just can't fight hard primals at lvl 49. Nothing about delusions, right?
    What does level have to do with it though? You're acting like being lvl 50 automatically says that you know whether or not other players are experiencing lag or not. I made a thread several weeks ago, asking EU players how their connections were because of where there servers were located. Pretty much all of them said no problem, and several of them were *gasp* lvl 50. I have several friends that live in the EU, and they have no issues.

    So tell me, what does being lvl 50 have to do with latency and lag issues?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slatervonjager View Post
    So tell me, what does being lvl 50 have to do with latency and lag issues?
    The lag is mostly a problem with endgame content like hard mode primals due to their difficulty. Thus the requirement to be level 50 before you can judge how bad it really is.

    But saying that there is no additional latency from the EU to a server in Canada doesn't make any sense either way. Of course we have more latency over here than those closer to the server - the laws of physics demand it! However, I think the biggest issue is not the lag caused by server distance, but the lag caused by server performance. If I remember correctly, the servers only check player positions 3 or 4 times per second, and that's just not enough for the current endgame content. They should either improve the servers or adjust the time we have to dodge AoEs.
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    Until primals fight you can't really experience much of server-client synchronization problems.
    Not being able to stun Ifrit in time at his eruption skill while pressing shield bash at 50% of the cast is normal?
    Maybe it's normal for you, but it's surely not normal for me.
    I'm not talking about lag (lag spikes, jumping ping, packet loss, etc.), i'm only talking about really existing latency (ping).
    What is 250 ms in reality? It is 0.25 seconds. Or 1/4 of the second.
    Double it, because you need at first to see beginning of "eruption".
    500 ms? Half a second? Eruption cast time is somewhere around 1.5 seconds. 1 second time to react for EU players.
    And if you are in US? 50 ms ping, 50 ms after bash press, 0.1 seconds total. 1.4 seconds time to react for US players. On "EU" (lol) servers.
    See the difference.
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    Last edited by Metabug; 09-23-2013 at 06:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metabug View Post
    Until primals fight you can't really experience much of server-client synchronization problems.
    Not being able to stun Ifrit in time at his eruption skill while pressing shield bash at 50% of the cast is normal?
    Maybe it's normal for you, but it's surely not normal for me.
    I'm not talking about lag (lag spikes, jumping ping, packet loss, etc.), i'm only talking about really existing latency (ping).
    What is 250 ms in reality? It is 0.25 seconds. Or 1/4 of the second.
    Double it, because you need at first to see beginning of "eruption".
    500 ms? Half a second? Eruption cast time is somewhere around 1.5 seconds. 1 second time to react for EU players.
    And if you are in US? 50 ms ping, 50 ms after bash press, 0.1 seconds total. 1.4 seconds time to react for US players. On "EU" (lol) servers.
    See the difference.
    Get a better ISP then. Anyways, whining, crying, bitching, moaning and threatening to quit aren't going to solve anything.
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    To answer your question check out this linkhttp://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...23e07acb3d22f6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnist View Post
    Get a better ISP then.
    Cool story, bro. I can only get better ping by moving to another country. All ISPs in here are still limited by the speed of light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metabug View Post
    Until primals fight you can't really experience much of server-client synchronization problems.
    BS, absolute BS. Ever been in a fate with 20-30+ people? yeah, these happen at ALL stages of the game. Saying your lag and latency issues are restricted to just 8 man parties, is ridiculous.

    My point still stands, being lvl 50, makes NO difference on whether or not you know what true latency or lag issues are, when you can experience it at as low a level as 1. And fyi, I have experienced 8 man party latency and lag issues, and it's no where NEAR as bad as it gets in fates with large numbers of players. The only thing that 8 man+ party instances do differently, is that the server attempts to sync people to help alleviate connection issues, So in all honestly, you're not even really experiencing serious latency or lag issues during HM primals or 8 man+ raids. So that whole point is STILL moot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slatervonjager View Post
    BS, absolute BS. Ever been in a fate with 20-30+ people? yeah, these happen at ALL stages of the game. Saying your lag and latency issues are restricted to just 8 man parties, is ridiculous.

    My point still stands, being lvl 50, makes NO difference on whether or not you know what true latency or lag issues are, when you can experience it at as low a level as 1. And fyi, I have experienced 8 man party latency and lag issues, and it's no where NEAR as bad as it gets in fates with large numbers of players. The only thing that 8 man+ party instances do differently, is that the server attempts to sync people to help alleviate connection issues, So in all honestly, you're not even really experiencing serious latency or lag issues during HM primals or 8 man+ raids. So that whole point is STILL moot.
    The way you talk seems like you never had to fight Titan and never got hit by Fissure even if you ran from it and is miles away from.
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