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  1. #1
    Player
    Moirear's Avatar
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    Biuma Arvinda
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    Goblin
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Knowing the following two things helped me manage this fight:
    1. run well beyond the bounding area so you don't get hit, and do so immediately
    2. the closer you are to Titan/the middle of the arena, the more likely that you won't get knocked off the platform if all else fails

    There's also this:
    3. your internet connection is hopefully not awful


    I've seen so many people rage-quit on this battle after a handful of wipes. It's a huge spike in difficulty over what's in the game before it. Though, it's also incredibly fun, too.
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    Reika Shadowheart
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    Durandal
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    Armorer Lv 80
    With positioning update as long as it is, sometimes you get lucky and your position gets updated when you are outside of the aoe before it goes off, sometimes you dont. In titan hard, the only real way to survive that fight is to remember the pattern and move early. If you move right when the ground aoe appears under you, you might escape and you might not, depends on if you get location update lucky. This really goes for every fight where there is a aoe attack indicator that you have some kind of chance to avoid it. You just cant predict when they will happen in every fight tho. This is by no means an excuse to leave it like it is.

    Doesn't help that there is still a delay between when the cast bar shows and when the ground aoe appears.
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    Last edited by Reika; 09-15-2013 at 01:46 AM.

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    Band Tribal
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    Moogle
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    Sometimes I have the same problem. It's very frustrating. Yesterday, the same thing happened to me in the last boss of Stone Vigil. I dodged the ice attack but I got hit.

    And I have a good internet connection:

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    Rydin's Avatar
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    Nyris Reach
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    Jenova
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    Lancer Lv 50
    First:
    SE did NOT fix ANYTHING. They put a band aid on it by making your position register as just a dot at your characters center as opposed to a circle around your entire character. This gives you more leeway when dodging, but doesn't even begin to address the abysmal delay that is not caused by internet connection (My ping is under 30ms on a high end PC getting a constant 60fps)

    As it stands, the server calculates your position when it feels likes it. SE refuses to fix (or is incapable of fixing) the problem but continues to make content where dodging and action oriented gameplay are essential.

    It is the worst in any MMO. Try playing 2 characters side by side and you'll see that people see you a full second behind how you see yourself. Its not the internet.... Its the PROGRAMMING (or lack thereof).

    Go look at TERA... it's a shitty game, for sure, but if you play 2 screens side by side, you'll notice that you see the other persons movements in pretty much real time with no delay. So I guess a shitty F2p MMO is exempt from inevitable internet latency but FFXIV is not.
    For that reason, anyone blaming internet or even 200ms ping is uninformed and misguided.
    200ms ping =/= over 1 second of lag. And if you think it does, you need to check your math.
    Everyone has this problem.

    I beat Titan easily every time though. In fact, I have a couple Allagan pieces and my friends and I are at the end of Bahamut's coil, so I'm not some player who can't beat it complaining. We beat Titan easily ONLY because we know the pattern and know what's coming. That makes for a pretty boring fight tbh.

    Scripted Primal battles are stupid.... but I guess necessary when your game was programmed by rookies
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    Vickyle Eyn
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    Masamune
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    First:
    Try playing 2 characters side by side and you'll see that people see you a full second behind how you see yourself. Its not the internet.... Its the PROGRAMMING (or lack thereof).
    Noticed this part too. In my screen, I was running ahead of all my party members, yet the video recorded by one of the party members showed that I was the last (running at the back).
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    Acheron Faeles
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Heres what I see: Some people here are unsuccessful while others are extremely successful about 50/50 judging from what i've skimmed on this thread…. What does that tell us? It tells us that this boss is not only beatable but requires a level if skill that perhaps you should take an the opportunity to practice or be more aware of your surroundings. If others can do it and with little to no issues then theres no reason you can't without practice. Endgame content is not supposed to be easy. If you're not good accept it and get better
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    Carmen Lucina
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramis View Post
    Heres what I see: Some people here are unsuccessful while others are extremely successful about 50/50 judging from what i've skimmed on this thread…. What does that tell us? It tells us that this boss is not only beatable but requires a level if skill that perhaps you should take an the opportunity to practice or be more aware of your surroundings. If others can do it and with little to no issues then theres no reason you can't without practice. Endgame content is not supposed to be easy. If you're not good accept it and get better
    Reach level 50 and complete hardmode titan then come back to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghgh4545 View Post
    Reach level 50 and complete hardmode titan then come back to me.
    Look around, half the posters here have already done that. That being said; I'm not here to impress you.
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    Nyris Reach
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramis View Post
    Heres what I see: Some people here are unsuccessful while others are extremely successful about 50/50 judging from what i've skimmed on this thread…. What does that tell us? It tells us that this boss is not only beatable but requires a level if skill that perhaps you should take an the opportunity to practice or be more aware of your surroundings. If others can do it and with little to no issues then theres no reason you can't without practice. Endgame content is not supposed to be easy. If you're not good accept it and get better
    Its not about easy vs hard. It's about being able to rely on what you see on the screen as accurate. At this point, that is not possible

    Quote Originally Posted by Genesiser View Post
    There is no "ambiguity" with aoe in this game
    Remember that time you were absolutely wrong?
    And at 32, what engame AOE are you referring to?
    That's right, run along, the grown ups are talking

    Quote Originally Posted by Genesiser View Post
    So in other words, you have the time it takes for the enemy to finish the cast and NOT the time it takes for the animation to go off.
    Actually you have to be out at least one full second before the casting bar finishes. You'd know that if you weren't completely blinded by your own smugness
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    Last edited by Rydin; 09-15-2013 at 02:19 AM.

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    Acheron Faeles
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    Its not about easy vs hard. It's about being able to rely on what you see on the screen as accurate. At this point, that is not possible
    That may be, I'm not saying this game is perfect. But at the same time there are posters who have not been having this issue. And I base this on nothing but its my personal feeling that people are more likely to blame the game then their own inability.
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