Anti-Speed Run Mechanism

[LilSmalls]

Maybe. But as I said in a previous reply I'm much more interested in the journey being fun. If the only point is to get tokens for another armor piece for better stats then the boat has been missed entirely in my opinion. It's the same reason I play monopoly from time to time, not so I can own everything on the board but to have fun with people and enjoy the time.

Also I don't nessecarily have a problem with speed runs per say but more a problem with newbies being tampled over because hardcores want to use a random party generator to burn through content as fast as possible. Once I've done the story quests etc, speed runs may be something i'll want to do myself but it would be extremely disappointing for such potential to be wasted on token grinding. I'd like to see SE to make dungeons a more whole experience that is rewards more broadly.

[Feilina]

As Turbine, developer of LOTRO, released Mines of Moria the instances had a similar problem. They made some pretty nice dungeons wih good mechanics but parts of the community decided to EXPLOIT their way through the bosses.
The solution was pretty simple. A door was built in front of many bosses and a trigger group of enemies was placed/moved to the door. Those who ran had an overwhelming situation.

Giving more tokens for clearing all enemies is just not the solution. As long as the dungeon could be run in time X and be more efficient than killing all creepers...

SE put a good amount of time and work in those dungeons, let's praise em for that work.
If you're put in group with runners let em run, report em while they run. They mostly can't kill the boss without you.

Seriously: It is an EXPLOIT!

[Amas]

Seriously: It is an EXPLOIT!

Incentives do work better. Considering Amdapor Keep is being run in an exploitative method, I think we've gotten spoiled with it.

A bit of arguing semantics, but it's not an exploit until SE confirms it as such.

Right now, it's best described as "unanticipated player behavior" (or even anticipated player behavior, we don't know, heh). We, as the player base, decided to take a different path for the content than the one obviously presented to us.

This was done because it was in our best interests as players to do so. Some players find the experience rewarding in and of itself indefinitely (e.g. Feilina). Most people, however, find the experience fun a few times and then the repetition becomes boredom unless there's some other motivator. The drops and the tomestones become that motivator, because those hold value to more players for longer.

Players will always do what's in our best interest. If the current method of speed running is eliminated, we'll find others, or look for content that's a better cost:reward ratio. AK simply isn't worth running if you have to kill the trash, unless it changes to more than offset repair costs.

[Mikai]

You can not report players for not wanting to waste there time. Most of the players from 1.0 like myself have every job at 50 but some do not. Trash mobs that give you nothing worth while for killing them will always be skipped. These players that want to speed run are not at fault at all I started doing said dungeons the beginning of the week i was told to speed run i honestly didn't get why and did not like it but then after doing it several times i understood why. Then you have the new players to which dont get why ppl wanna do speed runs whcih i sympathize with cause they are never told why or the strategy before the tank decides to just start running off. Then there are the new players who think they are the shit and ruin it for everyone else or try to play this game like say WoW or any other MMO.