Binding Coil of Bahamut Discussion

[Janda]

First of all, i'm impressed that you manage to progress that fast. Witch as well bother me a bit, not even 2 weeks after release legacy players are able to clear 2 out of 5 "wings" of suppose - hardest dungeon available for now?

This bothers me also. Personally i've completed everything ffxi had to offer back at the 75 cap days and again at 99 except for legion which i didnt touch but that wouldnt have mattered much as it was pretty much a zergfest like everything else that came at 99cap. I ran my own endgame LS for close to 3yrs on midgard before it merged into quetz and the content back then was imo far harder than the 99cap.

The fact that ppl are beating what is considered the pinnacle of difficult content in the game within a week of official launch doesnt exactly say much. Thats not a dig at the quality of play of those that are beating it now but it as Jaxxie said it too has been running through my head constantly.

Perhaps telling us how many times you had to try fights or how long before you beat each one would give the rest of us an idea of what to expect in a full 8man premade run in terms of difficulty? Having said that, i'm a firm believer that difficult content remains difficult even after mechanics have been figured out. Otherwise any fight with half decent mechanics/phases could be considered difficult untill its been figured out and gets beaten effortlessly time and time again. I guess what im asking is: do these fights remains difficult with little to no room for error even after everyone knows 100% what they are meant to be doing?

[Bartisaur]

You do know that they are legacy players with all the best gear already, right? I don't even think a single person in the new servers have Relic weapons yet and you can clearly see that their entire group has them. Call it easy when a new server group finishes it. (Progress will also be accelerated though since new players can get queue with legacy players with maxed out gear as well)

[Janda]

You do know that they are legacy players with all the best gear already, right? I don't even think a single person in the new servers have Relic weapons yet and you can clearly see that their entire group has them. Call it easy when a new server group finishes it.

First of all, at no point did i say the content must be easy just because they finished it within a week of going live. I am simply stating that content cant be as finely tuned as its being made out to be.

Secondly they do indeed have relics etc but that just goes back to the point i made in my previous post about true/false difficulties. I dont think truly difficult content becomes easy as soon as you are geared up to the eyeballs, not that im saying this content is but you completely missed my point.

[Zdenka]

Don't let our progress fool you. These fights are pushing the absolute limits of what we can do with Ilvl70 gear. Bahamut's coil was designed for you to beat Crystal Tower first and gear up in the ilvl85 gear that dungeon drops. Yoshi-P was entirely right when he said less than 100 players will clear this before 2.1.

[Dragonizzle]

How many other FC's have you heard of beating wings 1 and 2? You clearly don't know much about Blue Garter lol. You can't compare there progress to anyone else's, if there having a hard time with bosses, then 90% of the other FC's out there are probably not even gonna beat it for a long time.

This end game is awesome and extremely challenging, you should have no worries at all.

[Janda]

Dont get me wrong pls Bluegartr guys. I want nothing more than there to be content in this game that not everyone will be capable of beating and if what you say is true then i couldnt be happier with the potential endgame ill be working towards

I just dont think everyone understands the the difference between what truly makes a hard fight and what becomes mundane after gearing for it and understanding mechanics which is what my post before this one was trying to explain.

As for not even 100 ppl beating this before 2.1 This could be due to a few factors such as 2.1 being released sooner than expected therefore the players on non legacy not having the time to gear up and have plenty attempts at the current endgame or they could end up having plenty time and its as you say that they will fail instead due to the genuine difficulty of the content.

[Alise]

How many tries you need to win each boss ?

[Kiara]

Hi Carraway and BG,

A huge congrats on clearing 2 Wings of the Binding Coil of Bahamut!

Thanks for the updates and thoughts; it's great to hear from the "front lines" of the war in Eorzea. And good to hear about how the hardest content in the game is so far.

Please keep up the updates & がんばってください！

[carraway]

Dont get me wrong pls Bluegartr guys...

I just dont think everyone understands the the difference between what truly makes a hard fight and what becomes mundane after gearing for it and understanding mechanics.

We are not affiliated with bluegartr.com. As for the difficulty, you should see non-legacy groups clearing turn 1 of Coil soon if they haven't already. Although these fights are tuned exceedingly well for gear progression, the execution requirement is such that if you have players with a lot of endgame experience in other MMORPGs, they will learn faster than others. Each successive boss fight is exponentially more difficult in at least either complexity or tuning, and in the case of turn 1 to turn 2, it's both. We're psyched to see a lot of competition coming up.

When you see this content for yourself, it should quell any doubts you might have, even if you come in with full CT gear and a relic weapon +1.

[Xilrasis]

You do know that they are legacy players with all the best gear already, right? I don't even think a single person in the new servers have Relic weapons yet and you can clearly see that their entire group has them. Call it easy when a new server group finishes it. (Progress will also be accelerated though since new players can get queue with legacy players with maxed out gear as well)

We got our Relics yesterday and started on BCOB today on a non-legacy server.

Now if only we could get people back in the game so we could actually progress.