ARR Gil Cap Reduction

[Zezlar]

In the end it's not a Gil cut, but emotionally it feels like one. You put in effort to earn millions of Gil which will now become thousands. It's just very off putting, even if there is really no impact.

[NoctisUmbra]

In the end it's not a Gil cut, but emotionally it feels like one. You put in effort to earn millions of Gil which will now become thousands. It's just very off putting, even if there is really no impact.

Yup, that's true. Though its clear why they did this. The numbers are needlessly inflated. Being a millionaire means nothing right now. It'll actually have emotional weight to hit 1 mil in ARR.

[Sounsyy]

Anyone who understands this... any sellers who understand this

Anyone who knows how it works will immediately drop their prices

the few who understand how it works will have absolutely no trouble putting things up for 10% of what they used to be because anything greater is a rip off.

Please don't insult my intelligence by thinking I don't know what redenomination is. BUT you and I both have pointed out the same thing, that the mass populace will not immediately and knowingly drop their prices to 10% of what they used to be. People aren't going to be like "OH! It's 2.0, mark everything down 90% if I want it to sell!" In a perfect world, that'd be what would happen, but no, vendors will test the waters to see what they can get away selling it for first.

If I have an item worth millions, my first reaction isn't going to be drop it down to a couple hundred thousand. I'm going to start by dropping it a mil or two... wait.. see if it sells(and god help the markets if it does sell and prices stay up), then lower it another mil. This will take time for prices to balance. Now, if this redenomination happens, I have a feeling that new gear from 2.0 will be put up at prices that reflect the redenomination, maybe a little higher because they're new.

But still, in the time that it takes for everything to level out you have new players who cannot buy gear and old players who are pissed off that "wealthy" suddenly means having 100k+ gil(which I can't think of any game that that's the case). These are two things that SE cannot afford to have! They need a player base. If they don't get it right going in to 2.0, the people who are giving this a second chance are just going to laugh and leave. SE doesn't have two weeks or a month or two months for the markets to balance. There was a wall of threads raging about 2.0 grass Noctis, do you really trust the intelligence of this community to accept that 90% of their money is "gone" with dignity and grace in an orderly emotionless fashion?

[KiraHime]

Also - The gil cap wont be reached sooner with a lower cap, as all gil rewards and costs will be adjusted in a similar manner. This is not some massively complicated adjustment if you all take a second to look at the big picture rather than short-sightedly looking at your insignificant gil count

[KiraHime]

There was a wall of threads raging about 2.0 grass Noctis, do you really trust the intelligence of this community to accept that 90% of their money is "gone" with dignity and grace in an orderly emotionless fashion?

The forums are a vocal minority for the most part. Ignore them

[NoctisUmbra]

@ Sounsy

What Kira said.

Also, I never said it'd happen across the whole populace immediately. I even said in 1 post there will be a transitional period for prices to readjust and even predicted in other posts how some people will drop a bit and see who bites first. You went through the trouble of quoting me so much, how did you manage to miss those?

[Sounsyy]

The forums are a vocal minority for the most part.

Vocal minority does not mean that their opinions are in the minority.

[NoctisUmbra]

Perhaps.

What you see on the forums sure as hell doesn't represent the majority though. This isn't the first major change we've been through where people went crazy on the forums first.

[Sounsyy]

This is very true. Admittedly all we can do is wait, but I guarantee that when that same majority who doesn't read/participate in the forums logs in to 2.0 on day one full of excitement, but see that their 8mil is now 800k, their first thought won't be "oh this is clearly a redenomination, let me go check the nearest npc vendor to be sure" but more of a "WTF WHAT HAPPENED TO MY GIL? SE LOST MY GIL!"

[PandaTaru]

Yoshi has a long post up about the gil redenomination (in Japanese obviously):
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...034#post831034

if even the dev troll us around in the end, no point playing this pos.

I liked the part about the price of NPC being dynamic and changing depending of the economy. I can't wait to have a proper translation about this one. If it's really the case, then what's the point of cutting our gil if the price of NPC vary with inflation/deflation? stupidity.