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    Hmm I would have said for the PeluPelu that it was more "Barter, barter, barter, barter... alpaca alpaca... "

    Excuse me, now I have to go watch a certain video about badgers and mushrooms....
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    Not only light but especially in the beginning partially ridiculous. They actually had a solid foundation in the beginning where they talked about the different factions that supported each Promise but they never explored that beyond a few quest lines, never created intrigue behind it or even let it affect the MSQ to make it slightly more interesting.

    And it did not help that Wuk Lamat's endless "peace and love" drivel kept appearing nonstop and for nearly every quest without fail to the point it became cringe.
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    I've read a lot about the criticisms of DT's MSQ and the ones that resonate with me the most came down to this. Dawntrail's story outline IS interesting, but this execution is the worst one they've ever done, topping even Stormblood. That translated comment I've seen in another thread said it best, that this feels like a marriage of ARR's errand boy questing and Stormblood's preachy moralizing.

    Whatever you think about DT's story however, I think this comment in OP's post is my overall general feeling of the whole MSQ:
    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderClone View Post
    I'm very sorry to the person in charge of the [Dawntrail MSQ] scenario, but I don't want them to be involved in the story of the First World and other areas that are filled with memories up until now, and I don't want them to touch it.

    To be honest, I'm scared that even my memories of the story from A Realm Reborn to [Endwalker] will be destroyed.
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    Yeah that's the irony, they're as complex and nuanced and human as if a well-meaning but ignorant ARR-era Limsan or Ul'dahn or Gridanian had tried to write a beast tribe story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwadTheFrog View Post
    As a South American, I sure did love having my culture reduced to "MEZCAL AND TACOS". Oh, and funny very colorful clothes - literally goddamn everyone in this supposedly "diverse" city dresses in one way - that being traditional Andean wear. Really good, really inclusive. Absolutely not COMICALLY insulting at all.
    Welcome to the club my friend! Just like good ol North America, cowboys and gun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    Welcome to the club my friend! Just like good ol North America, cowboys and gun!
    Knowing modern games, it was either going to be that or hillbillies and Trump. At least Wild West stuff is fun.
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    Fake latin america expac, not a single dbz or saint seiya reference
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    FF has always been cuturally tropey.

    Fantasy France is about castles and catholocism, fantasy US is about cowboys, fantasy Mongolia is about horseback nomads, fantasy South America is about tacos.

    The only difference this time was how poorly written it was. They introduced it to us slowly, in voiced cutscenes, like a Sesame Street episode exploring Peru, without abstracting it, adding fantasy elements, or giving it any narrative relevance. And you can thank the fanbase for at least some of that--remember how WILD everyone went about Raha eating a taco? That's signalling "Yep, that's enough, please give us more of that!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Retropolitans View Post
    Fake latin america expac, not a single dbz or saint seiya reference
    If you get bored with the story, you're supposed to go play some KOF while the cutscene plays out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koko-on-da-forumz View Post
    FF has always been cuturally tropey.

    Fantasy France is about castles and catholocism, fantasy US is about cowboys, fantasy Mongolia is about horseback nomads, fantasy South America is about tacos.

    The only difference this time was how poorly written it was. They introduced it to us slowly, in voiced cutscenes, like a Sesame Street episode exploring Peru, without abstracting it, adding fantasy elements, or giving it any narrative relevance. And you can thank the fanbase for at least some of that--remember how WILD everyone went about Raha eating a taco? That's signalling "Yep, that's enough, please give us more of that!"



    If you get bored with the story, you're supposed to go play some KOF while the cutscene plays out.
    Yeah that is true...but FF always had an engaging story so most fans just brushed it off

    This time its the boring cringefest that is The Wuk Lamat Show so people are starting to notice all sorts of problems it has
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    Hallarem Aurealis
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    Lack of depth, padded, horrible pacing. Good characters, a decent cast that were used horrendously and not given time to cook and develop, aside from QIBRUC PIBIL (even that was rushed, where was our Zoraal Ja & Bakool Ja Ja cook off?). It was rushed and slowed down at the same time, and while it had good moments they were too far apart to cover the bad parts. Glimpses of potential that just dulled down to mud because of said bad pacing. Felt like I was watching a shonen anime at some point, which irked me. Also why bother bringing the scions if you end up using them as emotionless puppets that barely react to things with emotion? Are they even characters anymore? Do they feel angry about anything? Or are they just exposition vendors? Hell, seeing Koana's outburst was super refreshing.

    Zone music was decent, Tuliyollal music was an ODD CHOICE to say the least, and the "happy happy joy joy" off-tune sang disney song at the end? Whoever chose to okay that, should be fired.

    After a while of thinking, all I could think of was. "Is this why Endwalker was just one expansion, is this what they rushed for? Is this why we couldnt get Garlemald but destroyed it offscreen? Only to rush again to deliver a mediocre at best story?"

    TLDR:

    - Good zones, a definite improvement (open more buildings up, why bother making a town if you can only enter one building, that's not how MMO's should work, its about exploration and freedom. Not limiting the player)
    - Graphic update is decent
    - Nice bossfights
    - Mediocre music, bordering on bad in some examples
    - Fire the writers, and hire new ones
    - SAME OLD BORING QUEST DESIGN

    5.8 / 10
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