#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Supersnow845]

You started this conversation referring to "extensive" and "detailed" suggestions and in that response and every response since, you've not provided a single link or said which suggestions you consider to be "extensive".

A large majority of these suggestions believe that part of the issue in healers is that their Damage rotation is not engaging, they believe that because most of our time is spent doing damage it should be engaging to do so. Yet, these same individuals admit that damage is a "filler" to healing. The real issue is that healing is simply oversaturated, in easy content the damage does not justify the healing we have and in difficult content we're given two healers where one could suffice meaning that almost all healers who are worth their salt will be spending all GCD on damage and oGCD on healing. The solution isn't to continue spending all GCD's on damage but in a more engaging way, it is to actually make healing required.

Now, please — I doubt your next response will reference any of these 'detailed' and 'extensive' suggestions but I hope you prove me wrong and actually give us something to discuss.

I mean you are unhappy with responses because you have unilaterally decided what’s important to fix healers and then haven’t factored in the fact we’ve done this song and dance before

You say “the problem isn’t the damage rotation it’s the fact we need to heal in a more engaging way” but there is plenty of people who won’t support any change that forces greater reliance on the healer, it’s why a lot of people ask for better damage rotation

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I mean you are unhappy with responses because you have unilaterally decided what’s important to fix healers and then haven’t factored in the fact we’ve done this song and dance before

You say “the problem isn’t the damage rotation it’s the fact we need to heal in a more engaging way” but there is plenty of people who won’t support any change that forces greater reliance on the healer, it’s why a lot of people ask for better damage rotation

Wrong assumptions, I've already had two people respond to me the argument something similar to "We've tried to ask for what you want, but they told us to do Ultimate's, so now we're asking for this". So yes, I have factored in that this discussion has been going on for a long while, I have also not decided what is important to fix. I simply disagree with some of the fixes proposed. I don't see your point.

Edit: Not only that, the whole point of "but there is plenty of people who won’t support any change that forces greater reliance on the healer, it’s why a lot of people ask for better damage rotation" is just confusing to me, there are also plenty of people who wont support the change of a better damage rotation. There are a lot of individuals who think that healers shouldn't even have to do damage. So you're just bouncing from one point that is mixed to another that is (maybe slightly?) less mixed but still mixed.

[Supersnow845]

Wrong assumptions, I've already had two people respond to me the argument something similar to "We've tried to ask for what you want, but they told us to do Ultimate's, so now we're asking for this". So yes, I have factored in that this discussion has been going on for a long while, I have also not decided what is important to fix. I simply disagree with some of the fixes proposed. I don't see your point.

You literally said in the post I quoted “the solution isn’t to continue to spend all GCD’s on damage but in a more engaging way, it is to make healing actually required”. That is a direct quote from you

So you have decided your “fix” to healers is to make the healing side more engaging and more necessary in normal content. On its own it’s not a bad answer to the problems we face. However as someone who has just joined the forums you have to understand that non healers don’t like being reliant on healers. 9/10 non healer mains are totally happy to die to the first mechanic of the boss and watch the WAR solo the boss from 95% HP.

If you have two opposing ways to fix a class and only one non healer mains are liable to support that’s the one I’m going to put my money behind. I also want more engaging healing but first and foremost I simply want the classes fixed to a reasonable level

If you are so confident in your assessment that most of the current ideas are terrible then why don’t you provide some of your own. What else do you physically want us to do, we say we don’t like the healers we get told to offer solutions, we do and get told they are garbage, we abandon the role and get called out on that as well

If your entire point is “your solutions are garbage no I will not elaborate or actually add to the discussion” I have no idea what you hope to achieve