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  1. #201
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    Mouthbone's Avatar
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    Barabhar Haelbroes
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    Odin
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    Fisher Lv 100
    We should have gotten a fairy with a gun instead of Seraphism, huge missed opportunity
    I'm pretty sure everyone would be fine with that
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  2. #202
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Emitans View Post
    I think Seraphism really shows that CBU3 has no actual internal guideline or idea of what each job is actually supposed to be. Every expac they just throw a couple of ideas at the wall and hope they stick. I can't think of any other reason for "turn into an angel in white robes" to be added to the military tactician job.
    It seems to come from people who like cosplaying their healers as sin eaters and keeping the pure white dye market alive

    They got an “in” on SCH with summon seraph and now anything remotely angelic as long as it has wings has justification because seraph is the LB3 and now we can summon her directly. Before that they were mostly contained to WHM
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  3. #203
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    Olivia Lugria
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mouthbone View Post
    We should have gotten a fairy with a gun instead of Seraphism, huge missed opportunity
    I'm pretty sure everyone would be fine with that
    You know, if the fairy did some sort of follow damage when you casted a heal I'd actually think that'd be neat
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  4. #204
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    SCH becoming more Angel themed than Fairy themed is not really fitting for the character...

    Seraphism is more like what I'd expect WHM's Temperance to transform into rather than being a SCH skill. And even then the costume looks like crap.
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  5. #205
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    Minali Flo'uf
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    Twintania
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mouthbone View Post
    We should have gotten a fairy with a gun instead of Seraphism, huge missed opportunity
    I'm pretty sure everyone would be fine with that
    I suppose the MCH would be jealous
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  6. #206
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    Scribbles Atramento
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    Lamia
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    It’s the only change on the JP side that got two different threads opposing it so yeah they don’t like it
    Could you share links to the Japanese forums' Seraphism threads? I tried to find them on my own, but even with using google translate I still have trouble navigating the Japanese forums since they seem to organize their threads/posts differently from the English Forums.
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  7. #207
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    Neriya Fior
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    Sargatanas
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SabrinaScribb1es View Post
    Could you share links to the Japanese forums' Seraphism threads? I tried to find them on my own, but even with using google translate I still have trouble navigating the Japanese forums since they seem to organize their threads/posts differently from the English Forums.
    This is the main thread on just the transformation
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...81%84%E3%81%A6

    This is mostly about 6.0 SCH, but the last couple pages discuss the newer 7.0 stuff
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...82%B9%E3%83%AC

    Most posts with 20-30+ likes are ones saying they are disappointed with the transformation or want to be able to toggle it off.
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  8. #208
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    Scribbles Atramento
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icefall View Post
    This is the main thread on just the transformation
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...81%84%E3%81%A6

    This is mostly about 6.0 SCH, but the last couple pages discuss the newer 7.0 stuff
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...82%B9%E3%83%AC

    Most posts with 20-30+ likes are ones saying they are disappointed with the transformation or want to be able to toggle it off.
    Thank you for sharing! It's nice to see that there are players in other regions that hold some of the same opinions as us on the english forums
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  9. #209
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    Rawker Stone
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Bump......
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  10. #210
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    Neriya Fior
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    Sargatanas
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    In the media tour there is a Japanese article that includes mention of Scholar's new Seraphim transformation and potential future lore explanations:
    https://game.watch.impress.co.jp/doc...w/1593842.html

    Quote Originally Posted by Game Watch
    ――学者がいきなり変身していて、びっくりしました。

    吉田氏: 学者は「妖精食べた?!」など、色々な歴史があって、いよいよ自身がフェアリーに転身。でもデザインはバトル班とアート班が相当な回数のやり取りをして決まっていきました。ちょっと天使よりという意見もでるかもとは思っていますが、まずはじっくり触ってみていただけると嬉しいです。

    ――学者はいままで海兵魂!とか、結構武骨な印象だったので、落差がすごかったです。

    吉田氏: 絵替わりは非常に大事なので、こういった大胆さはあって良いと思います!

    ――学者のセラフィム化やソルバハムートは、どちらも裏設定がありそうなアクションですが、今回それがわかるようなジョブクエストがあるんでしょうか?

    吉田氏: 一連のジョブクエストは一回完結させているのと、ジョブクエストを作った場合、縛られてジョブ自体の改修に影響がでるため、本当はあった方が良いのかもしれませんが、今回用意していません。むしろ今後別の形でサイドクエストを作る時に、その中でロアが分かるようになるということはやると思います。
    Quote Originally Posted by Google Translation of Game Watch
    --I was surprised to see the scholar transform so suddenly.

    Yoshida: The scholar has a lot of history, including "Did he eat a fairy?!", and now he has finally transformed into a fairy. But the design was decided after a lot of discussion between the battle and art teams. Some people might say that it's a little more angelic, but I would be happy if you could take your time to try it out for yourself.

    --Until now, the scholar has had a pretty rugged impression, with a marine spirit! So the difference was huge.

    Yoshida: Changing the art is very important, so I think this kind of boldness is good!

    -- Both the scholar's Seraphim transformation and Solbahamut actions seem to have a backstory, but will there be a job quest this time that reveals that?

    Yoshida: The series of job quests are completed once, and if we created a job quest, it would tie us down and affect the revision of the job itself, so it might be better to have one, but we haven't prepared one this time. Rather, when we create side quests in a different form in the future, I think we'll do one that reveals the Lore.
    Keep in mind these are Google Translations and may have inaccuracies. Someone else may be able to offer a more nuanced translation.
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