Stop engaging with threads you don't like

[Theodric]

The best solution is to simply make ample use of the ignore function. It's fairly easy to tell who is worth engaging with and who is simply here to cause drama or act in an exceedingly selfish way if you learn to look at pattern recognition.

One thing to remember is that this is the internet and a forum devoted to a ten year old game. As such there's going to be agitators who are incredibly socially awkward, shockingly so. It comes with the territory, unfortunately.

I've encountered a number of posters who treat different personal tastes as something worthy of scorn to the point of seeing an offer to agree to disagree as a personal attack. You're never going to get through to such individuals and they're never going to compromise on anything or avoid demanding that you like or dislike what they wish you to.

So rather than request that those individuals do not engage, you need to be pre-emptive - there's nothing they loathe more than to simply be ignored. This is especially true of the posters who forget that this forum is primarily a place to leave feedback and discuss the game, including elements that they may themselves not be interested in or enjoy.

[Arrius]

The best solution is to simply make ample use of the ignore function. It's fairly easy to tell who is worth engaging with and who is simply here to cause drama or act in an exceedingly selfish way if you learn to look at pattern recognition.

One thing to remember is that this is the internet and a forum devoted to a ten year old game. As such there's going to be agitators who are incredibly socially awkward, shockingly so. It comes with the territory, unfortunately.

I've encountered a number of posters who treat different personal tastes as something worthy of scorn to the point of seeing an offer to agree to disagree as a personal attack. You're never going to get through to such individuals and they're never going to compromise on anything or avoid demanding that you like or dislike what they wish you to.

So rather than request that those individuals do not engage, you need to be pre-emptive - there's nothing they loathe more than to simply be ignored. This is especially true of the posters who forget that this forum is primarily a place to leave feedback and discuss the game, including elements that they may themselves not be interested in or enjoy.

This requires a more collective approach in order to be effective, of which this likely not happen because the internet will always be open for everyone, good and ill-intentioned, the reasonable and discord-seeking. And those who just want to see it all, ready with a pack of popcorn, subtly adding fuel to the fire as well. Drama's one of the oldest form of entertainment, after all.

Personally, I'd rather see a more heavy-handed approach from the forum owners myself, with a stricter moderation and punishments that also tranfers to your gaming account.
Because if you let those people free reign and 'just' ignore them, you empower those to keep on going as they think they won with their 'argument'.

And sometimes, just like in the real world, harsh consequences need to be in place. Even when it means drop-kicking them (figuratively and literally) in order to keep them in line that their nonsense is not welcome nor tolerated here.

[Theodric]

This requires a more collective approach in order to be effective, of which this likely not happen because the internet will always be open for everyone, good and ill-intentioned, the reasonable and discord-seeking. And those who just want to see it all, ready with a pack of popcorn, subtly adding fuel to the fire as well. Drama's one of the oldest form of entertainment, after all.

Personally, I'd rather see a more heavy-handed approach from the forum owners myself, with a stricter moderation and punishments that also tranfers to your gaming account.
Because if you let those people free reign and 'just' ignore them, you empower those to keep on going as they think they won with their 'argument'.

And sometimes, just like in the real world, harsh consequences need to be in place. Even when it means drop-kicking them (figuratively and literally) in order to keep them in line that their nonsense is not welcome nor tolerated here.

What's interesting is that the forum did used to take a heavy handed approach yet it went too far in such a direction to the point where a number of players were permanently banned for fairly minor and arguably silly reasons. Granted, technically any business can choose to crack down on whoever they so fit but at the same time it isn't unreasonable to then expect those rules to be applied fairly and consistently across the board.

I'm personally in favour of having more of an official presence and engagement from community representatives, which is something I pushed for here:

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...epresentatives

It's the only reliable way for the business to gain feedback from players who lack a financial incentive to profit off of the game as opposed to influencers who are effectively bribed into championing a product on behalf of the creators of that product.

Q&A sessions that do not automatically filter out hard hitting questions would also be beneficial, I think.

[Colt47]

What's interesting is that the forum did used to take a heavy handed approach yet it went too far in such a direction to the point where a number of players were permanently banned for fairly minor and arguably silly reasons. Granted, technically any business can choose to crack down on whoever they so fit but at the same time it isn't unreasonable to then expect those rules to be applied fairly and consistently across the board.

I'm personally in favour of having more of an official presence and engagement from community representatives, which is something I pushed for here:

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...epresentatives

It's the only reliable way for the business to gain feedback from players who lack a financial incentive to profit off of the game as opposed to influencers who are effectively bribed into championing a product on behalf of the creators of that product.

Q&A sessions that do not automatically filter out hard hitting questions would also be beneficial, I think.

This has been a rather weird expansion on the tail end compared to others as well. I definitely feel like they went through some kind of feedback drought or only had feedback come from a limited number of sources at the end of shadowbringers. The lack of ability to react to feedback that was given in 6.2x - 6.3x patches showed up and now its haunting patches 6.4x-6.5x. Its not like they need to add an entire zone like bozja in 6.55, they just need to do ANYTHING involving fixing the body check issues that are showing up. The cross DC problems need to be at least mentioned and discussed in a live letter at the very least to boost some confidence they are aware of it.

[Boblawblah]

You:

I've encountered a number of posters who treat different personal tastes as something worthy of scorn to the point of seeing an offer to agree to disagree as a personal attack.

You're never going to get through to such individuals and they're never going to compromise on anything or avoid demanding that you like or dislike what they wish you to.

Also You:

Endwalker had more than enough 'fluff content' for the venue goers and they make their own content rather shamelessly as anyone can see by glancing at what they upload to social media, so rather than cater to their ilk it's time that the development team remembered that there is a sizable chunk of people who treat this game as an actual game which means that they want actual content with staying power to entertain them with and tackle with friends.

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[StarRosie]

You:



Also You:




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Yeeeah, I noticed that too. Not really surprised though.