Stop engaging with threads you don't like

[Colt47]

What's interesting is that the forum did used to take a heavy handed approach yet it went too far in such a direction to the point where a number of players were permanently banned for fairly minor and arguably silly reasons. Granted, technically any business can choose to crack down on whoever they so fit but at the same time it isn't unreasonable to then expect those rules to be applied fairly and consistently across the board.

I'm personally in favour of having more of an official presence and engagement from community representatives, which is something I pushed for here:

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...epresentatives

It's the only reliable way for the business to gain feedback from players who lack a financial incentive to profit off of the game as opposed to influencers who are effectively bribed into championing a product on behalf of the creators of that product.

Q&A sessions that do not automatically filter out hard hitting questions would also be beneficial, I think.

This has been a rather weird expansion on the tail end compared to others as well. I definitely feel like they went through some kind of feedback drought or only had feedback come from a limited number of sources at the end of shadowbringers. The lack of ability to react to feedback that was given in 6.2x - 6.3x patches showed up and now its haunting patches 6.4x-6.5x. Its not like they need to add an entire zone like bozja in 6.55, they just need to do ANYTHING involving fixing the body check issues that are showing up. The cross DC problems need to be at least mentioned and discussed in a live letter at the very least to boost some confidence they are aware of it.

[Boblawblah]

You:

I've encountered a number of posters who treat different personal tastes as something worthy of scorn to the point of seeing an offer to agree to disagree as a personal attack.

You're never going to get through to such individuals and they're never going to compromise on anything or avoid demanding that you like or dislike what they wish you to.

Also You:

Endwalker had more than enough 'fluff content' for the venue goers and they make their own content rather shamelessly as anyone can see by glancing at what they upload to social media, so rather than cater to their ilk it's time that the development team remembered that there is a sizable chunk of people who treat this game as an actual game which means that they want actual content with staying power to entertain them with and tackle with friends.

SCORN

[StarRosie]

You:



Also You:




SCORN

Yeeeah, I noticed that too. Not really surprised though.

[StarRosie]

There is also the fact the ignore function leaves an incredible amount to be desired in terms of not engaging with certain individuals. All it does is make it so you don't see the in thread posts of someone you have ignored. If the person you don't want to engage with is the type to post threads often, or is a troll who posts multiple bait threads a day. They are still going to be in your face and pushing threads you may wish to actually engage with down the list. So it does ultimately nothing in the end. I also don't personally agree with jumping to the ignore option, because that can lead to just making echo chambers. Because sometimes, sure, you have those who have a more abrasive or even trollish posting style, but they can still make solid points. I said it in the past, Aveyond often made points I fully agree with but they were wrapped up in such a manner that I couldn't take them seriously or it made me disagree because the attitude just rubbed me the wrong way.

Overall, it just comes to a point I've made in other posts, people just need to grow up and learn to have civil conversation. Which is an incredibly tall order. Sometimes you just have to hash it out with someone and bury the hatchet. Moderation would help, it would help a lot in some regards. But I know people who have been heavily active trolls on other forums for years and never seen punishment. Because they mastered how to push their trolling riiiiiight up to the line of the rules, but never cross the line. At which point, it really does come down to the community on how to handle things.

One example I made was if you have a community center where people come to talk, and 6 people come in every day and start screaming the sky is falling for an hour, and the owner of the community center won't do anything about them...it comes down to the community on how to handle them. And sometimes that means showing them the door. I will fully admit, I'm not always the best at practicing what I preach, but I own up to that while doing my best to improve upon practicing what I preach. But parts of this forum and how a lot of folks behave, fall squarely on "Treat others how you wish to be treated." Which I made entire tangents about but it just leads back to, folks need to grow up and learn how to have more civil discussion.

[Boblawblah]

There is also the fact the ignore function leaves an incredible amount to be desired in terms of not engaging with certain individuals. All it does is make it so you don't see the in thread posts of someone you have ignored. If the person you don't want to engage with is the type to post threads often, or is a troll who posts multiple bait threads a day. They are still going to be in your face and pushing threads you may wish to actually engage with down the list. So it does ultimately nothing in the end. I also don't personally agree with jumping to the ignore option, because that can lead to just making echo chambers. Because sometimes, sure, you have those who have a more abrasive or even trollish posting style, but they can still make solid points. I said it in the past, Aveyond often made points I fully agree with but they were wrapped up in such a manner that I couldn't take them seriously or it made me disagree because the attitude just rubbed me the wrong way.

Overall, it just comes to a point I've made in other posts, people just need to grow up and learn to have civil conversation. Which is an incredibly tall order. Sometimes you just have to hash it out with someone and bury the hatchet. Moderation would help, it would help a lot in some regards. But I know people who have been heavily active trolls on other forums for years and never seen punishment. Because they mastered how to push their trolling riiiiiight up to the line of the rules, but never cross the line. At which point, it really does come down to the community on how to handle things.

One example I made was if you have a community center where people come to talk, and 6 people come in every day and start screaming the sky is falling for an hour, and the owner of the community center won't do anything about them...it comes down to the community on how to handle them. And sometimes that means showing them the door. I will fully admit, I'm not always the best at practicing what I preach, but I own up to that while doing my best to improve upon practicing what I preach. But parts of this forum and how a lot of folks behave, fall squarely on "Treat others how you wish to be treated." Which I made entire tangents about but it just leads back to, folks need to grow up and learn how to have more civil discussion.

I'm sorry, I can never finish reading your posts because your signature is TOO CUTE!!

[StarRosie]

I'm sorry, I can never finish reading your posts because your signature is TOO CUTE!!

HA! Understandable. Rika and Clodsire are perfect. Though now idk if I should swap to the other one I had...

[Battler-Ushiromiya]

the day ppl start rioting in servers I'll happily join. It brought major changes on osrs it could bring em here

HOLY KEKTOPIA

[Atelier-Bagur]

No1 said that
Also didn't asmongold literally triple this games playerbase and break the servers

Yeah but people dont want to hear the cold hard truth

[Stormpeaks]

Yeah but people dont want to hear the cold hard truth

The cold hard truth lmao, this game is better off without Asmongold's fan base, also he sure as hell didn't triple the active numbers by himself, there was an increase sure but certainly not triple, and the second he stopped playing, a lot of them stopped too.

Yall need to stop giving so much credit to streamers as if this game depends on them to survive, it doesn't, the game was quieter before the streamer/wow exodus stuff but it was in a good place.

[Nebelheim]

The cold hard truth lmao, this game is better off without Asmongold's fan base, also he sure as hell didn't triple the active numbers by himself, there was an increase sure but certainly not triple, and the second he stopped playing, a lot of them stopped too.

Yall need to stop giving so much credit to streamers as if this game depends on then to survive, it doesn't, the game was quieter before the streamer/wow exodus stuff but it was in a good place.

I agree asmongold brought a nice boost but it wasn't triple like people claim and I prefer how quiet things were before he came. Aether end up getting locked and the wow exodus overflow came to primal and made things more chaotic. If anything asmongold only brought 100k at most then the endwalkers hype and release brought active players to 1.2 million with returning players coming back. The 400k boost only last until 6.2 or 6.3 until we went back to patch 5.5 numbers with 6.4 and 6.5.