Why Are the FFXIV Forums So Bad?

[Tint]

Just curious, in-game its pretty pleasant, most people are reasonable and easy to talk to, the game has a pretty bustling social scene, I've made plenty of friends that I've linked with irl, but on here you're all like 12 year olds screaming at each other over who loves FFXIV more like you're some weird attention starved children begging for your parent's attention. Literally every discussion post is littered with lonely 40 year old women and neckbeards spurting Mean Girls comments over any and everything.

So what made you all this way? Was it years of neglect and moderation from Square-Enix? Lack of healthy social lives? Mental illness? I'm curious

Just ask yourself why you post such a mean spirited topic and maybe you will find your answers.

[Orinori]

Just ask yourself why you post such a mean spirited topic and maybe you will find your answers.

Not mean-spirited at all, I'm just being honest and I've seen many forum goers proudly proclaim how toxic and immature they are and wear it as a badge of honor unironically. If you don't fit into that description then I'm sure you're a great person and you don't really apply to this, no?

[CNitsah]

Not mean-spirited at all, I'm just being honest and I've seen many forum goers proudly proclaim how toxic and immature they are and wear it as a badge of honor unironically. If you don't fit into that description then I'm sure you're a great person and you don't really apply to this, no?

You basically said the most probable reason people acted as they act is because they "lack healthy social life" or "are mentally ill". You also described them as "children starved for attention" and "Neckbeard". You basically insulted 80% of the forum users. It's kinda mean spirited, and you didn't even realise it. This is part of the reason, people don't even realise when they stop being civil. As I said, it's very weird it only happens on english forums, and japanese, french and german ones are decent.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

You basically said the most probable reason people acted as they act is because they "lack healthy social life" or "are mentally ill". You also described them as "children starved for attention" and "Neckbeard". You basically insulted 80% of the forum users. It's kinda mean spirited, and you didn't even realise it.

He did it intentionally. He's just another troll alt lol.

[Orinori]

You basically said the most probable reason people acted as they act is because they "lack healthy social life" or "are mentally ill". You also described them as "children starved for attention" and "Neckbeard". You basically insulted 80% of the forum users. It's kinda mean spirited, and you didn't even realise it. This is part of the reason, people don't even realise when they stop being civil. As I said, it's very weird it only happens on english forums, and japanese, french and german ones are decent.

Someone explained this to me earlier, and I apologize if I offended you. English is not my first language and I didn't think I was actually insulting anyone, just trying to joke around but this isn't the first time I've had misunderstandings like this, so apologies to you if I offended you in the post

[Reap00]

Just ask yourself why you post such a mean spirited topic and maybe you will find your answers.

They do have a good point. These forums are a cesspool. So much trash. So much negativity. I am sure SE ignores everything here. I certainly would.

[Carin-Eri]

They do have a good point. These forums are a cesspool. So much trash. So much negativity. I am sure SE ignores everything here. I certainly would.

I do wonder if it's some 'burn out' thing myself as I don't think they've always had a predominantly negative tone - or perhaps I just didn't notice it.

I mean, I joined early 2022 having started playing the game December 2021. One of the first things I did here was make a thread asking for advice, as was finding elements of the MSQ difficult and even came to question whether I should persist with the game. And I received a lot of friendly replies and good advice.

But it does seem that the 'tone' changed somewhat as more players-come-forumites completed 6.0, didn't enjoy it nor the post-Endwalker patches, and clearly found themselves reflecting on their dissatisfaction and discussing said dissatisfaction here.

Maybe things will lean toward some more positive-themed discussion when 7.0 launches - who knows?

[Jeeqbit]

don't think they've always had a predominantly negative tone - or perhaps I just didn't notice it.

You didn't notice it. I was posting here in Stormblood and it was like that then. Back then, I was defending Eureka against all the people who didn't like it (and now somehow people miss it after seeing the alternatives in Endwalker). Back then, people were wanting Heavensward job design back. Of course, then we got Shadowbringers, which simplified jobs even more and even the very announcement of it all invited criticism here.

So I was around here again at the end of Shadowbringers (2021) and same sort of thing which hasn't changed since.

However, I think many of the most negative posters probably actually quit or unsubscribed or stopped posting during Endwalker, so that might be why you didn't notice it. But it is still a fact that people are more likely to come to the forums when they have a complaint.

first things I did here was make a thread asking for advice, as was finding elements of the MSQ difficult and even came to question whether I should persist with the game. And I received a lot of friendly replies and good advice.

That's pretty normal, but especially in the New Player Forum.

Maybe things will lean toward some more positive-themed discussion when 7.0 launches - who knows?

There's no chance. People who have been here as long as I have will surely agree.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

You didn't notice it. I was posting here in Stormblood and it was like that then. Back then, I was defending Eureka against all the people who didn't like it (and now somehow people miss it after seeing the alternatives in Endwalker). Back then, people were wanting Heavensward job design back. Of course, then we got Shadowbringers, which simplified jobs even more and even the very announcement of it all invited criticism here.

So I was around here again at the end of Shadowbringers (2021) and same sort of thing which hasn't changed since.

However, I think many of the most negative posters probably actually quit or unsubscribed or stopped posting during Endwalker, so that might be why you didn't notice it. But it is still a fact that people are more likely to come to the forums when they have a complaint.

That's pretty normal, but especially in the New Player Forum.

There's no chance. People who have been here as long as I have will surely agree.

It's been going on since 2013.



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