A question for SCH mains and enjoyers

[Renathras]

So you're basically admitting that you're arguing in bad faith.

No, I'm not.

If I'm not here, then the beliefs and opinions encountered are uniform/close enough to uniform and there's no dissenting view. Again, show me someone else here consistently at odds with the majority of you. Show me what those differences actually are. "alternate ideas" that are all in agreement with each other aren't alternate ideas. If you got a bunch of MAGA people together to discuss plans for border control and one suggested a fence while another suggested putting alligators in the Rio Grande and someone else is suggesting putting the military on the border to turn people away, that's still an echo chamber since no one is arguing against the whole affair, their "differences" are on "how to do this thing we all agree on", not an actual disagreement on the thing in question, and not actual dissent.

Also, that's not me engaging in bad faith.

Something I've noticed here - whenever I accuse someone else of a thing, several of you tend to try your DAMNEDest to accuse me of that same thing, even when it's wrong to do so, as Vetch pointed out. Your extreme reach and insistence on using the same insult instead of something else just to hope it sticks is based on a flawed belief that if you can accuse someone of doing something then this negates their initial accusation of that to someone else. It actually doesn't. It doubly doesn't when said person (me in this case) isn't doing the thing to begin with.

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As to your second paragraph: I'm pretty sure when we talk about healing tools, homogenization is a constant complaint. Again, I'm the only frequent poster here who says that the Healers AREN'T homogenized.

In before everyone lines up (to prove me wrong) insisting all of a sudden, in conflict with their normal views, that Healers are totally not homogenized... <_<

This place...

People think that classes designed to spend most of their time spamming one button as their skill ceiling is boring? And want more to do with their downtime?

What. A crazy. Opinion. Only a true insular echo chamber could possibly reinforce. Such an outlandish. Idea.

Where did I say it was crazy?

I said it wasn't universal.

Not everyone does. When a place has all but one person doing so, and everyone is pretty consistently attacking that one person, then yes, that would be an echo chamber. ...also probably harassment and definitely bullying and brigading, not that anyone cares...

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EDIT:

Actually, let's do a simple thought experiment.

If I wasn't here, what would everyone be talking about/disagreeing on?

"A summary of healer issues" - you all agree.
"One button DPS is bad" - you all agree.
"Healers are boring" - you all agree.
"Healers are homogenized" - you all agree.
"Healers need DPS buttons" - you all agree (again, with the caveat that SOME are okay with AST, and just AST, getting some buffs instead, and a lot of that thaw was actually due to me over time...but also you all kinda want another DPS button and more damage when soloing; speaking of...)
"Healers, especially AST, do too little damage when soloing" - you all agree.
"Healers should be rewarded for playing well with a more engaging DPS rotation for downtime" - you all agree.
"Healers shouldn't have simple gameplay" - you all agree.
"Healers should have a high skill ceiling (WHM can have a low floor, but its ceiling also needs to be high)" - you all agree.
"AST cards suck" - you all agree.
"SCH was better in SB" - you all agree.
"Healers in general were better in SB" - you all agree (I'm the only one who will CONSISTENTLY point out WHM was not better and was better in ShB and EW, which a few people seem to have grudgingly come around to admitting, but only with the caveat that "Well, SB WHM was just so bad, anything was better", not that ShB/EW WHM is actually good in its own right in any way.)

What EXACTLY do you disagree on?

You agree on all the major, overarching things.

What MAJOR things do you disagree on? If nothing major, what disagreement is there really, absent my voice?