Perception.....

[Grudgebringer]

I am definitely a big enough man to admit if im wrong. So lets both do some testing and get the exact number.

EDIT: You know even if some people are getting 8 at 114 and some at 115 that still means it can still cap at 114. Ill give this one to ya. Good thing is were not arguing religion here... there is a correct answer, and the point is to find that.