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    Quote Originally Posted by BubblyBoar View Post
    The best solution is just to lower the ilvl sync cap so that the CT raids actually have mechanics again. The second boss of ST hasn't seen mechanics since WoD released and it has only gotten worse over time. Once the CT series is on the same level as the rest of the raids (minus Void Ark because that's too easy too) then there is no reason to ilvl cheese it. It will still op more often than the others, but the ilvl cheese won't contribute to it.
    Level sync can only do so much. Level 50 has been reduced to being almost as simple as level 15 at this point. You can't recreate the original experience. If instead of level sync we had stat sync so we could do run CT with level 90 skills at level 50 damage and HP, maybe that would work.


    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    I find roulettes fun and interesting.
    I'm glad to hear it, you should be onboard with my idea since it's designed to change nothing for people like you.

    Maybe you should check out the other thread on this topic.
    It doesn't seem relevant.

    You're entitled to feel one way or another, but that doesn't mean someone else is at fault for that feeling. Some people don't like gathering or crafting. That doesn't mean the system is poorly designed.
    The conversion your quoting was discussing if roulettes should offer an entertaining experience. The proper analogy isn't a crafting system that only some people like, it's a crafting system that no one likes. If I were to use an argument similar to "roulettes can be boring for everyone because they fill queues" it would be no different than saying "crafting can be boring for everyone because it contributes to the economy". When you spell it out, it doesn't sound very good.

    This is all besides the point again because, as I said the last time we discussed this:

    "Also, why does it even matter? If a new idea is not making things worse for anyone, but better for me, who is losing out? No one."
    If you have a problem with the idea, let's hear it. If you don't, then it doesn't seem like there is a problem.

    I like pineapple on pizza. Other people don't. That doesn't mean it's a horrible idea and it should never be done.
    And that's why reasonable people don't make arguments like this.

    If you feel negatively about something, maybe you need to just stop doing it.
    Would that apply to your participation in this thread? No, you seem to care about the subject, so you're putting in your opinion to defend your stance. You should expect the same from other people. If players care about the game, they will suggest improvements.


    There are certainly more pressing issues with the game that could use attention.
    Maybe then, this is near the top of the list. The game is built on roulettes. You're expected as a player to spend a considerable amount of time in roulettes. If roulettes are supposed to be a more or less everyday experience, they should absolutely contribute to every player's enjoyment. That's just how games work.
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    Skipping a lot because you're being obtuse.

    Quote Originally Posted by PyurBlue View Post
    Maybe then, this is near the top of the list. The game is built on roulettes. You're expected as a player to spend a considerable amount of time in roulettes. If roulettes are supposed to be a more or less everyday experience, they should absolutely contribute to every player's enjoyment. That's just how games work.
    The game is built on a story and different modes of play. Roulettes are icing on the cake. You're expected to play the game to your level of enjoyment, not a predetermined amount of time or duties. You're given a wide range of activities to choose from because you can't please everyone all the time.

    If you're never going to answer the question of what it is you need so badly from this roulette that you can't get from anywhere else, then the conversation is pretty much done. You're looking to make a change where it's not really needed or will have a negative impact on others. Selfish ideas like this will not make it to discussion by the devs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PyurBlue View Post
    Level sync can only do so much. .
    They can do a lot more than they have.

    Because right now the ilvl sync for CT is:

    LoTA: Min ilvl 50, ilvl sync 130 (Almost 3 times the minimum)
    ST: Min ilvl 70, ilvl sync 130 (almost twice the minimum)
    WoD: Min ilvl 90, ilvl sync 130 (almost 50% more than the minimum)

    No ilvl sync should be more than ideally 10 ilvls more than the rewards for said content. At most LOTA should have an ilvl 70 max (ST's minimum), ST should have an ilvl max of 90 (WOD's minimum)

    LoTA at ilvl sync of 60 would be completely different than it is right now.
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