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    If you don't want random duties or a particular duty, don't do roulette. You hate to see it, but that's all this ever comes back to because you're still not coming up with anything that's actually better for everyone.

    No one's forcing anyone to do anything they don't want, but when you do something like a roulette, you have to understand and accept what the possibilities are. Some of you sound like you should avoid mentor roulette because if you think CT is bad, wait til you get ARR EX fights with a bunch of sprouts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    If you don't want random duties or a particular duty, don't do roulette. You hate to see it, but that's all this ever comes back to because you're still not coming up with anything that's actually better for everyone.

    No one's forcing anyone to do anything they don't want, but when you do something like a roulette, you have to understand and accept what the possibilities are. Some of you sound like you should avoid mentor roulette because if you think CT is bad, wait til you get ARR EX fights with a bunch of sprouts.
    How do you figure that? Also, why does it even matter? If a new idea is not making things worse for anyone, but better for me, who is losing out? No one.

    Being given the option to avoid certain duties sounds like exactly the thing that would benefit everyone anyway. If roulettes were more inviting, that might increase participation. Especially when we have duties with very lopsided participation rates. It would be almost impossible to create a situation where CT queue times increase. It's mandatory and many people care about getting in and out rather than actually having any kind of in game experience. That is creating a very negative experience for many players who would rather run the other raids in the game. I don't see any way to paint the side that wants to actually enjoy the game as selfish or entitled. Roulettes don't have to be the way they are now. If their current form doesn't bother you fine, but trying looking beyond your own point of view.

    And CT being worse than wiping in EX? Hardly, at least one counts as something to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PyurBlue View Post
    How do you figure that? Also, why does it even matter? If a new idea is not making things worse for anyone, but better for me, who is losing out? No one.

    Being given the option to avoid certain duties sounds like exactly the thing that would benefit everyone anyway. If roulettes were more inviting, that might increase participation. Especially when we have duties with very lopsided participation rates. It would be almost impossible to create a situation where CT queue times increase. It's mandatory and many people care about getting in and out rather than actually having any kind of in game experience. That is creating a very negative experience for many players who would rather run the other raids in the game. I don't see any way to paint the side that wants to actually enjoy the game as selfish or entitled. Roulettes don't have to be the way they are now. If their current form doesn't bother you fine, but trying looking beyond your own point of view.
    My point is these ideas only make things better for you (maybe) and will somehow make things worse for others. I've said all I can and more in this thread and the main one.

    And CT being worse than wiping in EX? Hardly, at least one counts as something to do.
    Take the blinders off so you can read better. Failing that, read it again! Failing that, have someone show you how to read comparative statements like the one I made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    My point is these ideas only make things better for you (maybe) and will somehow make things worse for others.
    If you have some objection to the idea, share it. That's how problems are solved. Otherwise you're making baseless assumptions (like it's going to be worse for everyone).



    Take the blinders off so you can read better.
    What you typed was read very clearly. If wiping is possible, even if it's from poor play, then whatever content you're pointing to is almost certainly better than CT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    If you don't want random duties or a particular duty, don't do roulette. You hate to see it, but that's all this ever comes back to because you're still not coming up with anything that's actually better for everyone.

    No one's forcing anyone to do anything they don't want, but when you do something like a roulette, you have to understand and accept what the possibilities are. Some of you sound like you should avoid mentor roulette because if you think CT is bad, wait til you get ARR EX fights with a bunch of sprouts.
    Lol! You gotta be a troll.. your accusing the people who are queuing normally for AR roulette of not being ok with their duty? When the ilvl cheese heads are literally crying about being in any duty except CT/LotA to the fact that they are activity manipulating the RNG of the roulette to only be what they want.. get outta here with that victim shaming and role reversal on who is really the problem!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baxcel View Post
    Lol! You gotta be a troll.. your accusing the people who are queuing normally for AR roulette of not being ok with their duty? When the ilvl cheese heads are literally crying about being in any duty except CT/LotA to the fact that they are activity manipulating the RNG of the roulette to only be what they want.. get outta here with that victim shaming and role reversal on who is really the problem!
    Nah. Troll would be saying everything you just said.
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