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  1. #31
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    Toutatis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    The problem with this "who cares" logic is it makes every alliance raid queue except CT longer.
    If i want to farm rabanastre i have to sit through 2+ hour queues as any role. That defeats the purpose of the roulette, which is to help queue times
    I don’t know at what time you play but I have never waited more than 1/2 hour for Rabanastre to pop on Primal. I even got it twice in a row last week doing roulette.
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  2. #32
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    Avalen Koma
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    The problem with this "who cares" logic is it makes every alliance raid queue except CT longer.
    If i want to farm rabanastre i have to sit through 2+ hour queues as any role. That defeats the purpose of the roulette, which is to help queue times
    I've never waited 2 hrs for any alliance raid to pop so idk I feel like this is exaggeration unless you primarily play at the dead of night/early morning hrs. But at that time, all raids including CT take awhile to pop (30+mins).
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  3. #33
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    Why not just accept the fast CT raid clear for the roulette then queue for the specific raid you want to do?
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  4. #34
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post

    1. People may be levelling a job and their level is too low to access the next tier;
    2. Despite being over levelled and willing to unlock the next tier, one may not have reached the point in the MSQ that allows them to unlock the next tier of raids (along with the tome gear);
    3. ftp are limited to CT and HW raids so that eliminates 3 out of 5 series
    4. someone may be queuing CT specifically (relic weapon quest or just because)
    5. Pure “luck”. Even if the whole team is in 600+ gear and has everything unlocked, roulette could still take you to CT.
    Just one more thing here:

    - CT is also the only raid that you run into naturally (cause of MSQ req). All others require you to find and complete a sidequest to gain entry.

    I know people that don't have anything but CT unlocked or maybe have Nier but missing Void Ark and Rabanastre.
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  5. #35
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illmaeran View Post
    Why not just accept the fast CT raid clear for the roulette then queue for the specific raid you want to do?
    It really is fast. I just got pulled into a Lab that someone left and was done in about 15 minutes. There was some impatience and some botching, but we sailed through.

    I checked my party list and there was a 68, so up to a 1 in 6 chance on that.
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  6. #36
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Exodus
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Best solution is to upgrade the exp in Nier, Rabranastre raids to measure up against the time investment to complete the raid. CT is sub 15min, Nier is a 45min investment that gives more or less the same amount of EXP.
    That and add rewards to them.
    Make it so you can trade in the tokens you get at the end of completing them for prizes like the minions, orchestrian rolls, and gear (so if people want them, they don't have to rely on RNG), and add new rewards like level 1, dyeable version of the gear that any job could wear, mounts, etc. (❁´▽`❁)*✲゚*
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    Last edited by Mimilu; 11-04-2022 at 11:31 PM.

  7. #37
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    Perrin Aybarah
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    Exodus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Ilvl cheesers exist but aren’t even close to the real problem.

    1) The crystal tower raids are the only mandatory ones while leveling up.
    2) Each person can level like 30 different jobs.
    3) As they level from 59 down it’s a 100% chance they get crystal tower. Assuming they unlock it (most don’t) from 69 down it’s a 50% chance. Again assuming they unlocked from 79 down it’s a 33%. And from 89 down it’s a 25% chance.
    4) Every alliance raid has 24 people so there is a good chance one of the above rolls will land on Crystal tower and drag 23 people with them.
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  8. #38
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Spriggan
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    Just allow queuing in DF but you can tick one thing you don't want to do. Problem solved.
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  9. #39
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    Chadhadai Oronir
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illmaeran View Post
    Why not just accept the fast CT raid clear for the roulette then queue for the specific raid you want to do?
    Because CT is boring and being level 50 sucks.
    Now that all my jobs are 90, I am never queuing that dumpster fire roulette again. I'll just queue the good raids specifically.
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  10. #40
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    I'll just queue the good raids specifically.
    that’s a simple and sound solution. It’s what I do too when I feel like doing a specific raid. If I queue roulette, it’s because I don’t care what I get. Anyway, different raids pop regularly on my DC, it’s not just CT.
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