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    Harpeizanae's Avatar
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    Freja Buttonnose
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    Two potential solutions that I'm not the first to talk about

    Personal solution: Leave duty. Try again later. Additionally queue for your favorite alliance raids outside of your own roulette to populate other players alliance roulette with different content.

    Solution two (Which will never become reality): I hate to say it. But copy World of Tanks, each player is able to blacklist one map, with premium you can blacklist a second map. I can only speculate but I bet most players don't mind LoTA/Syrcus/WoD, so it should impact those queues minimally.

    How Do I Exclude a Map in a Standard Battle?
    • Every player can exclude one map. With WoT Premium Account, you can exclude two maps.
    • You can exclude a map only for Standard Battles.
    • You can change the excluded map every four hours.
    • If a Platoon enters a battle, maps excluded by the Platoon Commander apply.
    • Excluded maps do not apply:
    • to Tier I–III vehicles
    • to Encounter Battles, Grand Battles, and Assault.
    https://eu.wargaming.net/support/en/...article/15744/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harpeizanae View Post
    Two potential solutions that I'm not the first to talk about

    Personal solution: Leave duty. Try again later. Additionally queue for your favorite alliance raids outside of your own roulette to populate other players alliance roulette with different content.

    Solution two (Which will never become reality): I hate to say it. But copy World of Tanks, each player is able to blacklist one map, with premium you can blacklist a second map. I can only speculate but I bet most players don't mind LoTA/Syrcus/WoD, so it should impact those queues minimally.

    How Do I Exclude a Map in a Standard Battle?
    • Every player can exclude one map. With WoT Premium Account, you can exclude two maps.
    • You can exclude a map only for Standard Battles.
    • You can change the excluded map every four hours.
    • If a Platoon enters a battle, maps excluded by the Platoon Commander apply.
    • Excluded maps do not apply:
    • to Tier I–III vehicles
    • to Encounter Battles, Grand Battles, and Assault.
    https://eu.wargaming.net/support/en/...article/15744/
    Yo time to never see paradigm's breach ever again!
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Yo time to never see paradigm's breach ever again!
    Yep, that's the one that would be in my sights. Guaranteed 40 minute run if all goes well because of damage sponge bosses. More if it doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harpeizanae View Post
    Two potential solutions that I'm not the first to talk about

    Personal solution: Leave duty. Try again later. Additionally queue for your favorite alliance raids outside of your own roulette to populate other players alliance roulette with different content.

    Solution two (Which will never become reality): I hate to say it. But copy World of Tanks, each player is able to blacklist one map, with premium you can blacklist a second map. I can only speculate but I bet most players don't mind LoTA/Syrcus/WoD, so it should impact those queues minimally.

    How Do I Exclude a Map in a Standard Battle?
    • Every player can exclude one map. With WoT Premium Account, you can exclude two maps.
    • You can exclude a map only for Standard Battles.
    • You can change the excluded map every four hours.
    • If a Platoon enters a battle, maps excluded by the Platoon Commander apply.
    • Excluded maps do not apply:
    • to Tier I–III vehicles
    • to Encounter Battles, Grand Battles, and Assault.
    https://eu.wargaming.net/support/en/...article/15744/
    We'll have a total of 15 alliance raids when the EW set finishes. Alliance raids comprise of 24 players though. We definitely couldn't allow people to blacklist multiple raids. It'd be a mess.

    To add to this, groups that queue together would have a well diversified blacklist. Imagine if 8 players queue together in a group. That's 8 unique blacklists, over half of the existing raids currently and half of them even after EW finishes. It wouldn't be fair, and if anything, it'd create the potential for trolls to try and break the queues altogether.

    And finally, alliance raid queues die off at certain times on most servers. This would probably harm queue times further during those times.

    Even a single blacklist would be asking for way too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    We'll have a total of 15 alliance raids when the EW set finishes. Alliance raids comprise of 24 players though. We definitely couldn't allow people to blacklist multiple raids. It'd be a mess.

    To add to this, groups that queue together would have a well diversified blacklist. Imagine if 8 players queue together in a group. That's 8 unique blacklists, over half of the existing raids currently and half of them even after EW finishes. It wouldn't be fair, and if anything, it'd create the potential for trolls to try and break the queues altogether.

    And finally, alliance raid queues die off at certain times on most servers. This would probably harm queue times further during those times.

    Even a single blacklist would be asking for way too much.
    My guess is if they ever made this sort of blacklist a thing, they will only take account of party leader's blacklist just like how players cannot join a PF of somebody they blacklisted but can still end up in the same PF.
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    ilvl cheese is the least of the issues with it. It's the lowest lvl and mandatory so everyone doing alliance raid roulette is in selection.

    Making the others mandatory would help, some but with it being the easiest, it would need to be correctly rebalanced which SE should have done with the stat squish but didn't, means people will ilvl cheese it still. Moving it to msq roulette is completely not viable since the dungeons in it are 4 man's, they'll never pop as it stands now.

    The current msq dungeons should be scooted over into the leveling like they used to be and remove the lock on cutscenes. It has trust, do it with trust to see them in full. And in it's stead the CT raids should be alone there, as the cheapest, easiest and fastest way to fix this.
    And what about void ark? Nothing, it's fine. That's a non-issue.
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    It might break their DF algorithim/programming but the only fair way to fix things (w/o them shoving CT into its own roulette with separate roulette rewards, which I think the Devs are hesitant to do) is for there to be a ilvl check and if you are the reason CT was chosen you'll get the EXP and other rewards we get currently, but if you're ilvl is high enough to qualify for a non CT raid and you end up in CT anyway due to somebody else then you get additional rewards (can even have that be tiered even further, with the highest tier being available for meeting the EW 24 man raids ilvl requirements) for not participating in ilvl cheese. If all 24 people get CT due to the DF's roll of the dice then everyone gets enhanced rewards.

    This sidesteps the issue of people who legitimately need the clear being punished or quarantined off into their own roulette category/pool of possible players.
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    Last edited by Alpheus; 11-09-2022 at 09:56 AM.

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    If you don't want random duties or a particular duty, don't do roulette. You hate to see it, but that's all this ever comes back to because you're still not coming up with anything that's actually better for everyone.

    No one's forcing anyone to do anything they don't want, but when you do something like a roulette, you have to understand and accept what the possibilities are. Some of you sound like you should avoid mentor roulette because if you think CT is bad, wait til you get ARR EX fights with a bunch of sprouts.
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    Last edited by Deveryn; 11-09-2022 at 12:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    If you don't want random duties or a particular duty, don't do roulette. You hate to see it, but that's all this ever comes back to because you're still not coming up with anything that's actually better for everyone.

    No one's forcing anyone to do anything they don't want, but when you do something like a roulette, you have to understand and accept what the possibilities are. Some of you sound like you should avoid mentor roulette because if you think CT is bad, wait til you get ARR EX fights with a bunch of sprouts.
    How do you figure that? Also, why does it even matter? If a new idea is not making things worse for anyone, but better for me, who is losing out? No one.

    Being given the option to avoid certain duties sounds like exactly the thing that would benefit everyone anyway. If roulettes were more inviting, that might increase participation. Especially when we have duties with very lopsided participation rates. It would be almost impossible to create a situation where CT queue times increase. It's mandatory and many people care about getting in and out rather than actually having any kind of in game experience. That is creating a very negative experience for many players who would rather run the other raids in the game. I don't see any way to paint the side that wants to actually enjoy the game as selfish or entitled. Roulettes don't have to be the way they are now. If their current form doesn't bother you fine, but trying looking beyond your own point of view.

    And CT being worse than wiping in EX? Hardly, at least one counts as something to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PyurBlue View Post
    How do you figure that? Also, why does it even matter? If a new idea is not making things worse for anyone, but better for me, who is losing out? No one.

    Being given the option to avoid certain duties sounds like exactly the thing that would benefit everyone anyway. If roulettes were more inviting, that might increase participation. Especially when we have duties with very lopsided participation rates. It would be almost impossible to create a situation where CT queue times increase. It's mandatory and many people care about getting in and out rather than actually having any kind of in game experience. That is creating a very negative experience for many players who would rather run the other raids in the game. I don't see any way to paint the side that wants to actually enjoy the game as selfish or entitled. Roulettes don't have to be the way they are now. If their current form doesn't bother you fine, but trying looking beyond your own point of view.
    My point is these ideas only make things better for you (maybe) and will somehow make things worse for others. I've said all I can and more in this thread and the main one.

    And CT being worse than wiping in EX? Hardly, at least one counts as something to do.
    Take the blinders off so you can read better. Failing that, read it again! Failing that, have someone show you how to read comparative statements like the one I made.
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    Last edited by Deveryn; 11-09-2022 at 01:02 PM.

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