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    SargeTheSeagull's Avatar
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    Rad Calidum
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    Ultros
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    Red Mage Lv 100

    What are the devs going to change about dragoon??

    So in the patch notes reading Yoshi P mentioned they were thinking about making “major” changes to dragoon in 6.2. I’ve done savage on dragoon and I honestly can’t think of anything to change about it. At least not anything that would qualify as “major”. A few changes I’d like to see that are somewhat minor:

    - Able to hold three stacks of first mind’s focus
    - Raiden thrust procing from landing positionals again.

    I can’t think of anything on the job they’d want to change. I’d love the old buff timers to come back. Delaying the first life of the dragon felt like a good bit of skill expression but I doubt they’d do that before 7.0. What do you guys think they’ll do?
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    Aco Nale
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    They probably want to either remove or change DFD so that it becomes an AoE version of Spineshatter Dive, as well as perhaps remove Lance Charge and make Dragon Sight the 60s personal buff. They might also want to rework the job completely like they did with MNK. In any case, it's concerning because they will undoubtedly remove the uniqueness of the job.

    There's an ongoin discussion about this in this thread (https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...d-button-bloat) if you're interested.
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    Last edited by Aco505; 04-11-2022 at 10:21 PM.

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    Yuki Bajhiri
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    Lamia
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    Dragoon is the last melee DPS that really interests me. I strongly dislike all of the NIN changes since EW, not a fan of current MNK, RPR looks cool but is boring to play, and SAM is dead to me with the 6.1 changes.

    So yeah, I'm not optimistic for 6.2.
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    Edweena Ermagherd
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    They merged Mirage Dive and Jump / High Jump, no more delaying life windows, suuuuuper rigid now.
    Editing to clarify I can't read lol this is actually a great change.
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    Last edited by Edweena; 04-12-2022 at 12:38 AM.

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    Aco Nale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edweena View Post
    They merged Mirage Dive and Jump / High Jump, no more delaying life windows, suuuuuper rigid now.
    You can still delay windows as normal. Mirage Dive just appears after you use HJ. It hasn't been deleted, only the button was consolidated like Bunshin and Phantom Kamaitachi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aco505 View Post
    You can still delay windows as normal. Mirage Dive just appears after you use HJ. It hasn't been deleted, only the button was consolidated like Bunshin and Phantom Kamaitachi.
    Apologies I read it wrong!
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    Kota Ryu
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    Would be awesome if they added a wyvern pet to the job but in the form of like DRKs living shadow
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    Aco Nale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swisher_Sweet View Post
    Would be awesome if they added a wyvern pet to the job but in the form of like DRKs living shadow
    While I get the point of the idea, pets like Living Shadow are mostly what people call "glorified DoTs" that you fire and forget. Adding stuff like this to any job needs to be accompanied by some kind of interaction between pet and master, and since the pet AI of the game is funky... it'd be better if they concentrated on fixing this and making a creative use of our kit than giving us a pet.
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    Gisela Thorne
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Swisher_Sweet View Post
    Would be awesome if they added a wyvern pet to the job but in the form of like DRKs living shadow
    No, I can't say I feel like it would be. A fire-and-forget pet would be way too underwhelming and making it more involved would just be another case of fixing a job that's not broken. Besides just because there's a dragon theme, turning Dragoon into a dragon-summoner isn't at all what the job fantasy is about for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    No, I can't say I feel like it would be. A fire-and-forget pet would be way too underwhelming and making it more involved would just be another case of fixing a job that's not broken. Besides just because there's a dragon theme, turning Dragoon into a dragon-summoner isn't at all what the job fantasy is about for me.
    Perhaps an idea to include a dragon friend would be an action, that can for example activate after using Dragonfire Dive, which summons Vrtra or Tiamat to do a fire breath line attack.
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