Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
The only people that ever complain about orbonne are the “I use the fact that crystal tower has 24 people in it to hide the fact that I semi afk hakaze spam my way through it daily”
This right here. Orbonne wasn't nerfed due to difficulty but the fact you weren't compensated for the time investment relevant to the AFK-fest that is Crystal Tower. We're seeing the exact same problem unfold with the Nier raids. None of them are remotely challenging nor were they on release. So why are people avoiding them? Because the bosses all have bloated HP pools which means a Tower run will take upwards of 30+ minutes for the exact same EXP as a ten minute LotA—the latter of which you can AFK in. In a what if scenario where OG Orbonne gave significantly higher rewards to compensate for your time, nobody would have said a peep about it. Alas, the devs overcorrect as per usual and now Orbonne is arguably the easiest 24 man we have that isn't LotA and Syrcus Tower. It can't even keep up with Ridorana or barely matches Rabanastre, two raids that not only released before it but have suffered huge power creep due to the poor ilvl scaling we have. It's an absolutely shell of itself now.

Imagine if every 24 man after Aglaia are noticeably easier. People would complain even at the casual level because it'd be boring. Welcome to what happened with Orbonne.