the normal content is too easy

[Skyborne]

I still find it eternally funny that we have wrapped back around to "MMORPGs are for pasty gross no-life neckbeards! neeeerds!"

[KizuyaKatogami]

People like you want to make this game out to be like the ONLY thing that a person should play and that it should offer 24/7 experiences at levels that meet your expectations. other games don't exist to you. THIS IS NOT THAT GAME, NOR SHOULD IT BE. Nor should ANY game be like that.

Okay sure, somehow asking for more challenging content and asking for them to not simplify jobs is wanting to turn the game into 24/7 experiences.

[DrWho2010]

Okay sure, somehow asking for more challenging content and asking for them to not simplify jobs is wanting to turn the game into 24/7 experiences.

Guess it's just not their priority then. You made your point. If they don't do what you want them to do, well then *shrug*. Move on with your wallet to something else.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Guess it's just not their priority then. You made your point. If they don't do what you want them to do, well then *shrug*. Move on with your wallet to something else.

Again, the people here are merely offering feedback for the devs, as per what they have told us to use these forums for. Hence why this thread was made. No one needs you, or anyone else to tell them to move on. You can move on from the thread if people giving actual criticism bothers you. But the amount of people trying to shut down feedback in these threads is ridiculous. There’s literally 0 reason to argue. People drop their suggestions and feedback here for the devs to see. People can come in and express their opinions on that subject, but trying to shut down discussions with “just unsub, go play another game, i don’t like that you don’t like this part of the game,” is beyond childish and against the point of these forums.

[DrWho2010]

People drop their suggestions and feedback here for the devs to see.

It gets like this because 99.99% of their suggestions are crap and/or not feasible/worth trying to implement.

[Lauront]

It gets like this because 99.99% of their suggestions are crap and/or not feasible/worth trying to implement.

Strongly suggest if you don't like the complaints, put people on ignore, and move on to something else. No one appointed you here as gatekeeper of whether a complaint/suggestion is valid or not.

[KizuyaKatogami]

It gets like this because 99.99% of their suggestions are crap and/or not feasible/worth trying to implement.

That’s your opinion. Not everyone else’s. You’re free to share your opinion but don’t act like it’s how everyone feels, because it really isn’t, and it doesn’t paint you in a good light if you’re going to attack someone’s opinion and feedback and call it crap.

[redheadturk]

That’s your opinion. Not everyone else’s. You’re free to share your opinion but don’t act like it’s how everyone feels, because it really isn’t, and it doesn’t paint you in a good light if you’re going to attack someone’s opinion and feedback and call it crap.

I disagree with you on this one point. Due to particular physical disabilities [vision mostly] I disagree that the game is too easy, I like story mode difficulty right where it is. I agree with those saying if you want harder content do the harder content that is right there at endgame for you to do. I do agree that some of the simplification of jobs can be rolled back though [except don't touch my Blood of the Dragon the way it is now, the timer wasn't added difficulty, just a pain in the ass.]

[HyoMinPark]

I disagree with you on this one point. Due to particular physical disabilities [vision mostly] I disagree that the game is too easy, I like story mode difficulty right where it is. I agree with those saying if you want harder content do the harder content that is right there at endgame for you to do. I do agree that some of the simplification of jobs can be rolled back though [except don't touch my Blood of the Dragon the way it is now, the timer wasn't added difficulty, just a pain in the ass.]

I would agree if the endgame content actually posed a challenge the way it used to. Instead, it is getting progressively easier.

The 24-mans aren’t nearly as difficult as the likes of Weeping City, Dun Scaith, and Orbonne on release. Extremes are so easy they can be done with one or no healers at release, which the latter was a completely new phenomenon. They’re definitely not the same difficulty as the HW ones. Or even some of the SB Extremes. And Savage itself is not as difficult as it used to be. And I don’t mean the overtuned mess that was Gordias, but Midas. Or even some of the Creator fights (Cruise Chaser). There are a handful of redeeming fights after HW (O3S, O4S door boss, O11S, E8S, E12S door boss), and some still that are fun enough to excuse their easier difficulty. But doing this tier Week 1 and feeling utterly not challenged by anything that wasn’t the terrible P3S arena (I have bad vision and photosensitivity) was a disappointment. Yoshida claims the second tier is harder, but he’s also said that about many other things (like the disappointment that was Endsinger EX). So I take it with a grain of salt. I’ve retired from raiding due to rapidly changing life circumstances, so I guess my friends will have to give me their opinions on it.

People who want a real challenge basically have to wait for Ultimate. And we’re lucky to get two of those an expansion. I don’t expect the Criterion dungeons to be nearly as difficult as some keep saying they will be. Not when everything else has become so watered down. I hope I’ll be proven wrong, but we shall see. The only thing I’m looking forward to in 6.2 (aside from seeing where they go with the MSQ) is Sephirot Unreal. Because so loved his EX in HW, and I can only hope the Unreal is as challenging as the original.

[redheadturk]

snip.

Some of the ease is likely them undertuning just a bit to compensate for the stat squish. From what I understand from some WoW players, it took a full expansion for them to get the tuning just right after their stat squish.