Quote Originally Posted by whoopeeragon View Post
There's one problem here though - you are severely neglecting the potential of cross-classing abilities. Losing hate? What about archer abilities? You have massive hate on you? Pop Chameleon, instant downer. Freeze has a, what, 5 second cast timer? Can be interrupted? If you really wanted enmity gone, you would use those other abilities. Flare. Long cast time. Must be around you to hit. Fire combo. Faster cast time. You can be a RANGED attacker as well.

Shroud of Saints - last 20 seconds. Recast timer, 3 minutes. Less with CNJ ability. And TEMPORARY reduction. Holy - all MP gone. Oh, lovely....now I can't do anything else. And Holy is not a normal NUKING magic - it's situational...
First, I see you've forgotten that BLM takes it's abilities from Archer. Therefore, it's got Chamerleon. Also, just because spells have a long cast timer doesn't mean they aren't really useful. Infact, Flare is essential to our LS AV runs. Also, more than likely if you are casting Freeze, your standing still anyway. I mean, mages need to stand still in order to regain MP anyway. Obviously, they need to stand still to cast to. Any spell can be interrupted if they move.

Okay, lol, first, I think someone has forgotten what sarcasm means. Obviously, I was not being serious when I said Holy. But in that instance, it does not take a long time for a WHM to regain MP, especially with a Bard in the party(which is another resaon why anyone would take a Bard over and Archer), and Blissful Mind. And yes, Shroud of Saints only lasts for a certain amount of time. But honestly, I've nuked on WHM. Never really had a hate problem in small parties.