New Gear... for class only? [Glaring Issue] [Request]

[Aion]

In what way classes exist bothering you? I dont understand with the hate for class. The design is already stated, classes for more general play and job for specialised play. THM can be a support buffer, ARC can be optimized DD etc... why limit the options?

[Natabant]

In what way classes exist bothering you? I dont understand with the hate for class. The design is already stated, classes for more general play and job for specialised play. THM can be a support buffer, ARC can be optimized DD etc... why limit the options?

The only reason they kept the classes in the first place was because they didn't want to redo the whole armoury system, so they just added on to it with the stones that turn the class into a job. I'm hoping they do away with classes altogether and just keep jobs. It seems pretty pointless to have both, you can say that solo'n with classes is much easier but from my experience it's the same if not easier to solo with a job over a class.

P.S. Getting back on topic, I hope that new Gryphonskin Jerkin can be used by jobs... If it can't I'll be so sad

[Felis]

P.S. Getting back on topic, I hope that new Gryphonskin Jerkin can be used by jobs... If it can't I'll be so sad

Don't hope too much

1.22
-NEW- High-level recipes
-NEW- Addition of class-exclusive high-level recipes
* Planned to be highly challenging synthesis.

Letter from the Producer, XXVI (03/26/2012)

I say I love my THM, and my BLM

[Orophin]

This makes the most sense. Maybe with a level cap increase the classes won't go beyond Lv.50. Like some people have said it's going to be more and more difficult to keep classes and jobs similar and different at the same time. It's like having two jobs do virtually the same thing. You wouldn't add the Black Belt job when the game already has MNK. Things get repetitive. I would rather have SE worrying about creating many varied and unique jobs, than trying think how it will work as a job and a class.

Maybe they should have just capped the abilities a class learns at level 30 and the job learns the rest of the abilities as it levels up. Of course this would create a lot of problems with the current balance of the game probably, especially at how difficult the AF quests are at level. But people do seem to want harder content!

Of course soloing at lv50 is a much easier task for your job, however doing it from 30-50 is far from a breeze when compared to your class. You can die a lot easier when your on a job instead of your class.

The point is, this gear is like level 49. It really doesn't help with the leveling process. All it is is overglorified soloing gear, which as other people have stated above, jobs can solo better than most classes. I can almost guarantee even with a full set of double melded gear, a class would not be more useful than a job on Garuda.

[Lux_Rayna]

Maybe they should have just capped the abilities a class learns at level 30 and the job learns the rest of the abilities as it levels up. Of course this would create a lot of problems with the current balance of the game probably, especially at how difficult the AF quests are at level. But people do seem to want harder content!


The point is, this gear is like level 49. It really doesn't help with the leveling process. All it is is overglorified soloing gear, which as other people have stated above, jobs can solo better than most classes. I can almost guarantee even with a full set of double melded gear, a class would not be more useful than a job on Garuda.

Classes are not only good for solo, if you think this you should probably revisit the game. There are a number of reasons why anyone would choose a class over a job in a party, precisely because jobs are often over-specialized. Class only gear makes perfect sense, and since you're not quite understanding the system you should dedicate a bit more time to your classes. Course you never have to use a class just like you never have to use a job. Its up to you, options are great aren't they? Ive said it a billion times in this thread, but an arc will pwn a bard's single target dps in a party. Thats just one example. After the patch, an MRD will probably pwn a Warrior's aoe damage in a party...a GLA's dmg pwns Paladin for the same tanking efficiency as of now, Pgl can off-tank far better than monk, and LNC has much higher survivability than DRG for less damage capabilities. Classes were made with the ability to do more than one thing. Ppl just used them like jobs from FFXI because ppl can't let FFXI stay in the past. Now that actual jobs came out, no one sees the difference when its been there all along.

[Jinko]

P.S. Getting back on topic, I hope that new Gryphonskin Jerkin can be used by jobs... If it can't I'll be so sad

Class only, sorry.

[Affliction]

Dosnt anybody read the patch notes? back when they were talking about jobs coming out and when they did come out, they said they were also going to release class specific gear and weps.... We knew this... stop complaining lol

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

This probably isn't the thread for this, but...

Just throwing it out there. If class-centric equipment had some enhancers to cross-class abilities. Heavy armor for Gladiators and Marauders that may enhance an ability outside of their respective classes. Where the job continues to accentuate the exclusives and further the role.

As it stands... well in any game really, I think folks have considered acceptable efficiency. The way that they stack jobs for certain fights type of efficiency. Anything outside that efficiency is generally frowned or not tolerated. With the community heading toward this route of limited acceptable choices, it makes me think that adding new classes/jobs will be a wasted thing.

[Aion]

if we abolish class, how do player doing solo without essential skill like cure,stoneskin,sentinel,raise etc on rank 20 and beyond? dont say get a whm.....

[TheVedis]

if we abolish class, how do player doing solo without essential skill like cure,stoneskin,sentinel,raise etc on rank 20 and beyond? dont say get a whm.....

they wont get rid of them, people just want any excuse they can find to complain about something
especialy if its something they dont like



also, the poll where they mention changing the game, that doesnt mean you can hide behind that result every time you want something removed from the game, it doesnt work like that