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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    I disagree.

    people will easily be given and inch and run with it for miles. especially on forums. a developer says something, and suddenly its either a controversy or an EXPECTED future implementation simply because a dev mentioned it. look at all the fuss generated over an icon for a job not even in the game yet that has ZERO history.
    This is where moderation comes in. They did this kind of interaction for years without issue. People can have their controversy and the devs don't need to pay attention to it at all quite frankly, it's a fairly isolated area for such things. The community managers simply notice things they feel are worth passing on, highlight them to the devs, and we get the odd response. There is no obligation for them to say anything beyond that. If they're going to have these forums, they absolutely can work. They did it in the past, there is precedent for it working absolutely without problem. Only in the past two years have they stopped doing it, and I dare say that the forums are worse off for it, not better.

    Regarding the post by kaynide, the things they tended to reply to in the past were always well written and I don't think they ever really had the impact you are stating. I've never seen a mod or dev say they don't like an idea. They only posted about things such as:

    1) Reasons why something can't be done (not to say it isn't a good idea)
    2) That something is a good idea and they will look into it
    3) That they agree and a fix has been implemented
    4) Providing lore details

    Of course, I've not seen every single post by the devs and community managers but I don't recall any time they caused any problems.

    EDIT2: Examples of how mods/devs interacted with the community in the past:

    Help/information provided for a user
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post2692500
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...92#post3969492
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...33#post3116933
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...87#post2861187

    Confirmation that the team is looking into a suggestion/concern (note: most of these were implemented, from what I know of the game)
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post1101676
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...56#post3116856
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...02#post3116802
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...10#post3066610
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...66#post3066466
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...70#post3062370
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...46#post3058146
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...90#post2872190
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...29#post2812529
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...40#post2787940
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...37#post2787937
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...61#post2757261

    Confirmation that a fix has been implemented for an issue and/or new feature reveals
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...92#post3770692
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...32#post3403632
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...34#post2787934

    Clarification on how a decision was reached
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...75#post3684775
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...11#post3655511

    Asking to keep a thread on topic
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...15#post3483815

    Suggestion to log a bug report
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...87#post2872187
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    Last edited by Loony_BoB; 08-17-2021 at 09:39 PM. Reason: added a #4 for lore stuff