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    Bright-Flower's Avatar
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I'm not losing any sleep over it, personally - but such aesthetics were not present in the game to begin with and if people have the ability to petition for them to be added then other people should be granted the ability to petition to hide them if they so wish.

    We're not dealing with additions that were added in good faith, either. The development team did not wish to add them and said as much in interviews only to be accused of various horrid things as a result. A similar tactic wielded by some within this very thread.
    You can petition for whatever you wish, but if you petition for an option to hide other peoples glams etc so you don't have to see them I'd in turn petition against that as I'd see it as a waste of developer resources.

    Nor do you or I speak for the developers, do you have a source for proof that the devs are being forced or coerced into adding these because of such claims?
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    You can petition for whatever you wish, but if you petition for an option to hide other peoples glams etc so you don't have to see them I'd in turn petition against that as I'd see it as a waste of developer resources.

    Nor do you or I speak for the developers, do you have a source for proof that the devs are being forced or coerced into adding these because of such claims?
    Hey perfect compromise, genderlock stays in place and no system to blacklist certain glam.
    Now the devs have time to work on the actual content. Nice.
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    Hey perfect compromise, genderlock stays in place and no system to blacklist certain glam.
    Now the devs have time to work on the actual content. Nice.
    Agreed, certain problems solve themselves. One waste of resources ceases, another required to deal with it vanishes in turn, too.
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    You can petition for whatever you wish, but if you petition for an option to hide other peoples glams etc so you don't have to see them I'd in turn petition against that as I'd see it as a waste of developer resources.

    Nor do you or I speak for the developers, do you have a source for proof that the devs are being forced or coerced into adding these because of such claims?
    I don't have the specific interviews to hand, so feel free to take it with a pinch of salt...but the gist of it was that Yoshi-P expressed that the development team were uncomfortable with the idea of designing a bunny outfit for male characters. At the time, many people were asking for it to be added in a way that would make it masculine but instead we ended up getting a straight up copy of the female version of the outfit to appease the loudest voices on social media.

    The male viera thread also adopted a similar strategy, with some accusing the development team of being 'bigots' amongst other things when the gender lock was announced. Despite many people wanting a compromise in the form of a generous height slider and a masculine looking base face/muscle tone slider they were once again designed to appeal to the loudest voices on social media.

    Which is, in turn, why I no longer care to give such individuals the time of day. When there's a portion of the community pushing for feminine aesthetics so fiercely and also showing active contempt for masculine aesthetics with no desire to compromise, I have no desire to compromise in turn.
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    Feiya Harlow
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    Odin
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    What is there to compromise about? It's not like the playerbase needs to come to an agreement about something and then it's presented to the devs for consideration.

    Rather than repeatedly posting in opposition of a topic and adding to the post count, why not start a thread about things you DO want to see and keep that one alive and active?

    If it gains enough traction you might actually see it happen or at least get a response, if not then maybe it wasn't such a highly requested feature after all.
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    Loud Jungle
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    What is there to compromise about? It's not like the playerbase needs to come to an agreement about something and then it's presented to the devs for consideration.

    Rather than repeatedly posting in opposition of a topic and adding to the post count, why not start a thread about things you DO want to see and keep that one alive and active?

    If it gains enough traction you might actually see it happen or at least get a response, if not then maybe it wasn't such a highly requested feature after all.
    Or maybe there's no suggestion to be made about male and female glamours as we already like what they've been adding. However, I could definitely start one about no more crossdressing, thank you for the idea.
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