Logic behind house buying system???

[Schango]

So buying a house is only for those who are willing to give up on sleep, gameplay, and real life requirements to camp a placard. This current system breeds conflict and rudeness between campers and is just obnoxious. You miss out on an entire day of game play so you can camp the placard and click over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over until you are completely drained. Then since you care about your body and health you went to sleep only to wake up to the lot being bought. If karma is real I wish you all are collecting what you deserve for this set up.

[ItMe]

I bought a house with minimal effort.
I went placard clicking while waiting in que.
Got a house in a few months. Never lost sleep or clicked at the expense of my health.
Never had to prioritize clicking over things.
Everyone in my FC has gotten a house either by being lucky and getting one when a new ward was added, or by being patient and watching consistently and casually.

YOU DON'T NEED TO CAMP TO GET A HOUSE.

People, please don't camp at the expense of your health and wellbeing.
Don't do it.
And let's stop spreading the harmful idea that its camp or bust. That only encourages unhealthty practices.

[GavynG]

I bought a house with minimal effort.
I went placard clicking while waiting in que.
Got a house in a few months. Never lost sleep or clicked at the expense of my health.
Never had to prioritize clicking over things.
Everyone in my FC has gotten a house either by being lucky and getting one when a new ward was added, or by being patient and watching consistently and casually.

YOU DON'T NEED TO CAMP TO GET A HOUSE.

People, please don't camp at the expense of your health and wellbeing.
Don't do it.
And let's stop spreading the harmful idea that its camp or bust. That only encourages unhealthty practices.

I do agree that people shouldn't camp but because it's such a waste of time. I've been trying to do things the patient way and it's not working out for me. It is just such an awful system that shouldn't be justified or supported.

I hope SE eventually listen. I would even take a lottery system I've seen suggested a few times.

[ItMe]

It is just such an awful system that shouldn't be justified or supported.

Word!
100%~

And in the meantime, players, you dont need to hurt yourself to try and get a house. Please don't hurt yourselves.

[uwu]

I don't care about housing, but from what I've been hearing on how this works, this sounds completely absurd. Especially if it's not good for people's real life health. This needs to change for sure!
Just posting so this could get more attention =P

[Ashivra]

It does need to change, I suggest a lotto. At this point if you win, you have 24 hrs to claim the plot. If not then it goes to the next person. Its making a bunch of people quitting because this is a real unfair way and a very unhealthy way to get a plot.

[druidragon]

The main problem I see is that FC housing and Private housing should be different. Private housing is a luxury that no one technically needs. It's a nice feature and cool status, helpful but ultimately unnecessary. But FC housing has features and game play locked behind it, so the FC cannot progress until they get a house. Wasting months waiting makes the game become stagnant and frustrating for the FC members. This is a big reason why people camp wasting a different kind of their time.

I understand why the housing system alone makes people rage quit this game.

[RioRiordan]

The problem is there's a demand for access to player housing, but there's no reliable supply. Spending 8 hours today alone camping a placard with my wife only to have those 8 hours crumble to ash with a latecomer's lucky click on the placard is not only disheartening but also proves a point. The system is flawed in general and truly needs to be changed. Truthfully, I'd like to hear from a Dev or one of the game designers involved with player housing, I'd be interested in understanding the logic of why the current system is the way it is. I can think of a dozen better ways to handle it, maybe they need new ideas?

[MilkieTea]

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ing-Megathread

If anyone has any further input or would like to elaborate on the systems we currently have in place, I’d like to direct you to this thread. It’s important to consolidate housing issues (and other issues as well) into one thread, this way the thread remains on the front page and SE can see that it is a topic heavily discussed.

[Dzian]

The main problem I see is that FC housing and Private housing should be different. Private housing is a luxury that no one technically needs. It's a nice feature and cool status, helpful but ultimately unnecessary. But FC housing has features and game play locked behind it, so the FC cannot progress until they get a house. Wasting months waiting makes the game become stagnant and frustrating for the FC members. This is a big reason why people camp wasting a different kind of their time.

I understand why the housing system alone makes people rage quit this game.

Ironically Housing was originally intended to be FC only but they opened it up to the general public because the wards were dead and empty wastelands.

2 reasons for this being A housing was expensive but that was kinda the point. and B MOst free companies didn't last long enough to ever manage to buy one. this game is heavily lacking in social connections and actual player bonds on anything more than the most superficial level. as a result very few FCs ever survivved long enough or even made it to the rank required to purchase land in the first place. which lead to dead and abandoned wards. so in a bid to populate them they opened housing up to personal players.

one thing of note though is there are houses available. many servers have literally hundreds of empty plots scsattered around. the problem is the way players all try and congest onto the same 2 or 3 highly crowded servers. what they need to do is up theincentives for people to transfer. as the EXP boost they used to offer isnt an incentive to people that are already level 80 as its useless to them.

other issues include the horrendous mess that is the tenancy system. the lack of functionality for appartments and the demo system itself.

if appartments had access to workshops or gardening allottments. many of those houses that sit there empty becuase the owner only ever uses the garden for growing seeds could be freed up if appartmentsgranted that functionality. samegoes with workshops..

tenancy is busted because tenants haven o rights or powers. which then makes players who would happiliy share a house reluctant to do so because the house is innevitibly tied to one persons sub and if that person takes a break for a month your house goes bye bye even if you use it every day... so in stread of 3-4 people sharing 1 ouse those same 3-4 people have 3-4 houses. if they fixed tenency and plot sharing a lot of plots would open up for other players.

you fix these 2 systems and you'll go a long way to fixing the housing problem. doing stuff like a lottery system doesnt fix a damn thing though. as players will still just get super frustrated when they never win..