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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    In a hypothetical scenario where inputting this into the game WILL NOT remove dev resources. Let's say all they have to do is flip a switch in a HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO.

    Why would you be against it in this HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO.
    You believe in the toothfairy too?

    Cause they exist hypothetical! /s


    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    Yeah, that's what I was fishing for.

    Don't talk to me again please ^.~
    Stop replying to my comments then "^.~"
    and go back to your echochamber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    Yeah, that's what I was fishing for.

    Don't talk to me again please ^.~



    This just in: local cat lady doesn't understand what hypotheticals are.

    Anyways, I won't waste further time on people who can't be bothered to do a modicum of research. Have a nice day! ^.~
    <Don't talk to me again please.

    <Proceeds to keep editing their posts with more responses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    <Don't talk to me again please.

    <Proceeds to keep editing their posts with more responses.
    Pretty much, they probably don't want me to see it. Says much about the person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    II said don't talk to me, not that I would stop talking to them. I'm pretty literal in that sense. See above edit in which I say I won't waste any more time.
    Then don't post on a public forum if you cannot handle the ensuing responses. The internet does not revolve around you for your personal use. You post on a public forum, you'll get public responses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    Yeah, that's what I was fishing for.

    Don't talk to me again please ^.~
    'I don't like their opinion so I'm going to bait them into saying something that'll allow me to label them a transphobe so I can be done with it that way'
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    Well it's pretty useless to argue about a what If scenario don't you think.

    This may be a highly controversial opinion in this time and age. I don't believe there is more than 2 genders and you are the gender you're born in. So - If I make a female character or male for that fact, they are a she and he.
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    It's very easy for people who have a lot of possible representation at their fingertips to talk about how their character doesn't have to be a reflection of themselves.

    But there are a lot of people out there without that luxury. When there are real people who tell you that you don't or shouldn't exist in real life, it becomes more important to see yourself or people like you in a fantasy world. And until the game decides to introduce expressly trans or non-binary characters, for example, then often the only way to do that is to bring it with you.

    For some people, even in a marginalized group, that kind of thing isn't important and that's great for them. But for some people, it is important and it doesn't take much to show some basic empathy.
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    My major query here would be on how you'd go about representing marginalized groups in a universe where these groups aren't marginalized.

    No character in Eorzea is going to tell you that you don't exist on the basis of gender or sexuality.

    IMO, encouraging people to live as themselves in a fantasy game because they aren't accepted in reality isn't a healthy mind set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haru304 View Post
    My major query here would be on how you'd go about representing marginalized groups in a universe where these groups aren't marginalized.

    No character in Eorzea is going to tell you that you don't exist on the basis of gender or sexuality.

    IMO, encouraging people to live as themselves in a fantasy game because they aren't accepted in reality isn't a healthy mind set.
    The answer should be obvious, even if no doubt disliked: You don't. I said it earlier in the thread, a darker skinned Viera NPC won't be treated differently than a lighter skinned Viera NPC. Because skin color is not an issue in the setting, nor are people marginalized over it. Which means it makes no sense to try and forcibly make it an issue because 'real life politics' demand it. The same is true for most other such examples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by squidmonarchy View Post
    It's very easy for people who have a lot of possible representation at their fingertips to talk about how their character doesn't have to be a reflection of themselves.

    But there are a lot of people out there without that luxury. When there are real people who tell you that you don't or shouldn't exist in real life, it becomes more important to see yourself or people like you in a fantasy world. And until the game decides to introduce expressly trans or non-binary characters, for example, then often the only way to do that is to bring it with you.

    For some people, even in a marginalized group, that kind of thing isn't important and that's great for them. But for some people, it is important and it doesn't take much to show some basic empathy.
    And I will always call those people that place such emphasis on identification shallow. People are far more than their sex and gender, far far more. Further very few games do justice to such when they do include them. They either stereotype them or define the entire character around the trait rather than being fully fleshed out. It is almost always done for pandering rather than making a good character.
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