Final Skybuilders' Tool

[Kaurhz]

While this is true that benefit can exist, I can do your 20 step rotation with my Aesthete set by simply changing a control materia in my belt to craftmanship. If we look at the tools purely from the perspective of how useful they are, there's absolutely no way I'd ever consider grinding 8 full relics over swapping one cheap materia. They're purely for glam for me. Which is why I asked if they go in the dresser, because that's all I'll use them for.

I actually haven't bothered to obtain any of the last stages yet. There's nothing to craft really with ranking over and 4 star gear worth next to nothing, so there isn't even a point in rushing to get a shiny tool. I agree with Jojoya on this, it wouldn't have hurt to put a few materia sockets or a little bonus on these to make them truly BiS and that tiny bit more satisfying to obtain. I see no reason why they couldn't.

I mean sure if you remeld, the point really was that if you have them, then they have use provided you meet the requisite thresholds that you otherwise don't meet with Aesthete's. At this point, it's just several ways of achieving the same goal. I achievement hunt, I enjoy glamour and I personally prefer them over our Blessed Tools so I happen to conveniently have them. Would I do it strictly for the benefit of step/CP saving alone? Probably not, but again, it's glamour and achievement points anyway, just happened to be 2 birds with 1 stone in this regard. The original question was whether or not they belong, or are destined to go to the dresser, not whether you should grind them. That's a different matter entirely.

I do agree, they could have added a materia socket or two so that they have more benefit especially as it correlates to how annoying of a grind it is getting them all. I'm pretty sure the only argument I really made was that they're only worse if you apply vacuum logic to the situation. Outside of Ishgard Restoration, control only matters to the degree of going from 1 HQ material to 2, or so on, and/or whether you can save a step(s) or not, and with recipes as 'inflated' prog/qual wise, they aren't easy to hit; a 5K quality disparity on these recipes requires around 230 Control stat to eliminate. With Craftsmanship only mattering if it's the difference between Synthesis actions, particularly from a CP pov. It just happened in this very particular situation the gain to Craftsmanship outweighs the loss to control, hence my disagreement with looking at it through a vacuum. Besides, if the argument then is made that 4* is worth next to nothing, then these tools were doomed from inception irrespective of what they do, which then makes the whole topic/question moot in the first place. Though I would disagree on this anyway, simply given how well accessories are still selling, in combination with their low production cost.