Feedback/debrief on Ishgard Restoration from a Triple Saint crafter

[Caimie_Tsukino]

First of all, I'd like to commend on this thread set up by axemtitanium. Feedback/debrief/reflective exercise like this is paramount to game improvements, and will serve to benefit both the developers and the players.

Saint is achievable by anyone without killing yourself

I think this depends on which server/world you're on and which class you picked by luck... Some places like Zalera was really easy-going, while others may require somewhere closer to "killing yourself". On the other hand, DoL is really ridiculous. One can spend like an hour in Diadem, and yet you can get only about 800 skyward points. WHY? Why torture DoL?! Why 10 pieces of ores can only be converted to 1 approved ore? It makes absolutely no sense! 1 piece of ore should be converted to 1 piece of approved ore. The skyward points earned by DoL needs to be... NOT doubled, NOT tripled... but 10 folds more!!!!

The shape of competition needs work

Yoshida promised "graduating out" and what we got was... something else

Yes, there are certain a number of problems with the mode they chose to run this. I hope they really fix this ranking system. Currently, it's a little messed up.

Botting is a problem

Unfortunately, I don't think there will be any good solution to it. It's quite difficult for them to collect evidence, and to actually ban someone. As far as I've known, they have banned tons of accounts involved with RMT (which the RMT people just re-created a million account to replace them), but they are not really actively banning people who are botting unless the specific people publicly admit themselves botting.

Where to go next?
It got lots of people into crafting and gathering and gave them a speed boost to catch up with leveling if they needed it. Leveling DoL/H has never been particularly hard or time consuming but it is a bit daunting to think about leveling all 11 at once from scratch. Ishgard Restoration accomplished addressing that problem, so they're in a better position to level to 90 next time.

I actually disagree. Yeah, it got thousands of people to max out their DoH classes, but only a handful of them actually understands how to craft... Most of them don't think twice what the buttons do, and how to combo buttons at all. All they care is that, after reaching lvl 80, they got titles, benefits, can use macros, and can use Trained Eye to one-shot-HQ any low level items etc.

I think the way they made it SOOO easy to go from lvl 1 to 80 was just WRONG. What they should have done, was to make lvl 1 to 60 or perhaps 70 easy, but leave at least 10 to 20 levels tough before reaching level 80. Imagine if SE made it so that it's super easy to level ALL DoW/DoM to 80. People won't learn how to actually play those jobs while leveling, and it's not even FUN leveling them. And the end result, is half the world population being 'tanks' who don't pop tank stance, use defensive CDs or even hold aggros.

You could say Ishgard got lots of people into the crafting game, but 8/10 don't even know what they're doing... And people were thinking about team crafting? Oh boy, imagine the DF pairing you with 3 other "crafters" who don't pop Inner Quiet...

I see why people use bots to gather. You collect 10 of the items needed the same way and nothing changes. Why 10? You repeat the gathering over and over again. It’s not fun it’s a chore.

Stop with these simple mini games that get stretched out as far as an ocean, but are as deep as a puddle. It’s too simple and doesn’t hold well in the long run.

I wish there was more to the gathering. It’s so boring. After you gather the first node, that’s it. The game has shown you what you will be doing for hours. Why is this acceptable. Bare minimum shouldn’t be milked for cash.

That's exactly it. Why 10? There are even times I get only like 600-700 skyward points in an hour for my Miner/Botanist from Diadem. It's boring! It's a chore! It's sickening! And this is indirectly promoting botting.