Thread: Predictions for 5.3?

The rejoining will never happen because all our quests/dailies are on the first.

Originally Posted by LalafellDown

The rejoining will never happen because all our quests/dailies are on the first.

Depends....

Some stories with similar plots and issues tend to have the "rejoining" end up with the two world combining to a point the other world becomes a new Continent in the world thus the "rejoining" still happened but the world is now bigger due to a additional Continent.

Originally Posted by EdwinLi

Depends....

Some stories with similar plots and issues tend to have the "rejoining" end up with the two world combining to a point the other world becomes a new Continent in the world thus the "rejoining" still happened but the world is now bigger due to a additional Continent.

It doesn't matter how "some stories with similar plots" have done it because that is not how the Sundering works.

The planet split into identical copies. We know they overlay. They're not broken pieces to be reassembled like a puzzle.

And you don't just conveniently drop an entire new continent into another world without a catastrophic impact on global systems like weather, let alone whatever was pushed aside to accommodate it.

It would also entirely undermine the work we're doing in Eden to restore the Empty.

It's not happening.

And if it is happening despite all that, I will be cross.

Originally Posted by Iscah

It doesn't matter how "some stories with similar plots" have done it because that is not how the Sundering works.

The planet split into identical copies. We know they overlay. They're not broken pieces to be reassembled like a puzzle.

And you don't just conveniently drop an entire new continent into another world without a catastrophic impact on global systems like weather, let alone whatever was pushed aside to accommodate it.

It would also entirely undermine the work we're doing in Eden to restore the Empty.

It's not happening.

And if it is happening despite all that, I will be cross.

It will greatly depend on how it happens.

The combining of two worlds differs based on the plot's choice of effect.

One outcome can have the entire memories and world's history altered to accomondate the changed world.

Another can result in the memories being preserved but the world itself altered.

As for the empty, there are ways around it without removing the Eden story such as only the new continent is mostly the Empty thus the world's history adjust itself from restoring a planet size Empty to a Continent size Empty.

However, these are just theories thus we will have to see where the stories goes and if there is a safe way to cause a rejoining without negative effects since the method of rejoining by Ascians is only done because it is considered the fastest method which means there is most likely a safe method but it is considered either much slower or that Zodiark is blinding them from it because it may not "benefit" him in anyways.

Originally Posted by Iscah

It doesn't matter how "some stories with similar plots" have done it because that is not how the Sundering works.

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It's not happening.

And if it is happening despite all that, I will be cross.

I share the opinion that, because of gameplay, the Sundering can't happen. They can't cut off the First, and they can't make a past dimension bubble, that's be ridiculous in FFXIV that is so rigid with its timeline and time-bubble.

However, given how the loss of the Thirteenth is both inconsequential and not preferable for the wake of Zodiark... I've started wondering if Elidibus is not trying to come up with a big plan to somehow overpass the Sundering as we understand it get to his goal. Perhaps taking down Hydealyn herself... I don't know, but something that would not involve Calamities and rejoining the Shards.
Becaue the other way around is not satisfactory; if we kill Elidibus and all Ascians, Zodiark is still there somehow. Sealed away, but here. And we know how it never goes well in most stories to have the bigbadboi just "locked away".

Originally Posted by Vyrerus

It's not that I don't like it. I just don't think that's the direction things are going to head. Though I've been wrong before.

It is a bit out there I know. I just find it odd to see FF8 references and not also look at the other RPG that came out earlier the same year by the same publisher. Cross was not well received by some but the previous title Trigger was much beloved. Throw in the reality hopping story with a bit of time travel and I just can't help myself.

It most likely is just coincidence, but I would truely lose my mind if it were correct.

Originally Posted by Cilia

I think something a lot of people are missing is -

Whatever caused the Final Days was, to the best of our knowledge, terrestrial. The starshower heralding the Final Days was just a symptom of the Sound, not the source of the issue itself (a la Jenova or (to my knowledge) Lavos). The real issue came from within the planet itself - or, perhaps, the aetherial sea.

Aside from the commentary of the various Amaurotine shades explaining the Final Days, the final boss of the Amaurot dungeon (Therion) bears the title "Chthonic Riddle." The word "chthonic" literally translates to "subterranean" from ancient Greek, but in contemporary usage refers to deities and spirits of the Underworld. Considering the Ancients referred to the aetherial sea / lifestream as the "underworld"... you can put two and two together.

My train of thought may turn out to be wrong (it has been before), but whatever actually happened, I doubt it's something so simple as a hibernating malign alien that crashed on the planet millennia ago suddenly acting up.

Regardless, we're unlikely to get answers for that specific event for a long while; 5.3 is the culmination of Elidibus' hastily cobbled together plot to be rid of us, so he's liable to be front and center. I'd not expect to see the issue addressed until 5.4, at the earliest.

I still think Elidibus haste to remove us maybe involving the effect of Sundering. The story seem to been showing the Ascians in a hasty state currently as if there is another effect for the sundering only they know about that may make rejoining impossible once a certain amount of time passes.

A good effect will be if the lesser shards are preserved as separate worlds permanently but a bad effect maybe that the lesser shards all disappear from existence.

Though if the effect is that the lesser shards will disappear from existence (thus killing everyone on all lesser shards) it would provide a strong motivation for the new Warriors of Light on the first to push towards rejoining their world as the only way to save everyone on the First in a certain point of view.