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  1. #81
    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    With the current retainer interface, just two is way too much work.
    They need a single menu, with instant switching between them at any level. No dialogs, quit from any level, craft from retainer inventory, drag/drop materials between retainers and bags.
    Indeed. I forked out for 2 additional retainers, but this is the reason I use them solely as additional inventory space, and rare use them for selling or ventures.
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  2. #82
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    Derio's Avatar
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I am just hoping they do a simplification of items needed. They already simplified crafting and gathering. Now they just need to go back and cut down on all the different types of cotton in the game.
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  3. #83
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    Altria Pendragons
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    Leviathan
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    Ninja Lv 100
    People dump money on Star Bucks but nickel and dime for buying one additional retainer in 2020?
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  4. #84
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    Edax Royeaux
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    Leviathan
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    People dump money on Star Bucks but nickel and dime for buying one additional retainer in 2020?
    I don't drink Starbucks despite having worked at one previously.
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  5. #85
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    Esmoire's Avatar
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    Mei Coincounter
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    Ultros
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    In general I'd like if they maybe took a small cross-disciplinary team of like 2-3 people to cull down stuff from old expansions where it's needlessly complicated. Reduce the diversity of crafting items in ARR and HW especially, while still asking for overall the same amount. Like, if a crafting mat you can buy for poetics is almost worthless, either condense it to one per content tier (60 and 70 specifically), or just chuck it out. Similarly, while not crafting related, ARR, HW, and SB tomestone gear should just come augmented, and you should just buy weapons wholesale. I'd seriously hope we are not so petty as to be chasing sprouts down to squeeze another 100 Poetics out of them, and there's certainly plenty of sinks they could add for Poetics if that's needed. In general I'd like a small cleanup process with each expansion. As it is now, as someone who started the game in late 2018 I found there was a lot of unnecessary hoops to jump through where the actual expense is small, but the time spent dealing with a confusing and disorienting UX is massive.
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    Last edited by Esmoire; 03-31-2020 at 02:08 PM.

  6. #86
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    Elja Djt-dvre
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    Sagittarius
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    People dump money on Star Bucks but nickel and dime for buying one additional retainer in 2020?
    My city doesn't have Starbucks even, and I already pay for 4 additional retainers. Still would like other people, who can't or doesn't want to spend more money on a sub (since retainers service is linked to it, sort of) for whatever reason, have more space to work with.

    2 Retainers were bearable in ARR and HW (and even then I knew people who struggled with space because the overal amount of slots was lower), but now in Shadowbringers, if you keep something outside of battle items (like tokens from raids and trials) - it runs out annoyingly fast. There can be no need for 3rd additional retainer if they expanded them for one more bag, though.
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  7. #87
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    Aduro Terrarum
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    Hyperion
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    Miner Lv 80
    I’m up to like a total of five retainers. At least one of them will go away once I’ve finished leveling my crafting jobs to 80, as right now they’re just being used to hold all the Diadem mats and stuff for the Restoration. The others are also mostly full of “maybe I’ll need this to level crafting” materials and are also on the chopping block once I stop needing to hoard all that. I assume I’ll end up at three, since I like the extra Chocobo Saddlebag you get from the app, which also comes with a Retainer.
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    People dump money on Star Bucks but nickel and dime for buying one additional retainer in 2020?
    Free is better.

    I never expect free anything, but I do understand the draw.
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  9. #89
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    This has been my Crusade. and my main issue with the game for years now.


    It throws gear at you (only 400 slots in the glamour dresser for thousands of weapons/armor in game)

    Crafting of any sort is ridiculously resource intensive (ESPECIALLY Culinarian)

    It throws currencies at you all the time despite them not going into your currency tab.

    It's like they have so much item bloat to absolutely incentivize retainer subscriptions. Hell I have a retainer filled with nothing but Materia and various Currenies.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  10. #90
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    SinisterJoints's Avatar
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    Lunafreya Valentine
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    Jenova
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    I like how all implications are people hoarding onto crappy materials that can be farmed up whenever. That's not the case for me. I don't actually have any materials stored except a handful of commonly used materials from time gated nodes, taking up like 5 whole spaces.
    Fill in the blank with whatever material/gear/item you want and hoarding still applies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    400 spaces in the glamour dresser is not enough for the plethora of items that currently exist in the game with unique appearances (Including recolours of items that affect non-dyable parts)
    Now we are getting to the root of your problems, its ok let it out ( a TON of items use the same graphic and even dye the same, VERY FEW dye different in comparison)


    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    The fact is, back in ARR SE deemed 2 free retainers sufficient for people's use. Whilst also noting that some people may use more than average and so have paid for retainers.

    Since then, there have been 3 expansions, all increasing the number of items in the game. There has not been any update to the number of retainers.
    The fact is they have done a TON of other things to help with inventory mgmt. Increased bag size, armory size, stack to 999, choco saddle, another bag slot, glamour dresser, expanded currency tab which I'm willing to bet more people wanted than a free retainer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    If it was generous, there wouldn't be any paid for additional retainers, because it wouldn't be necessary.

    The irony still stands that you were talking about how easy it is to maintain storage space yet and how generous the storage is, yet also at the same time mention that not just additional retainers but an additional account entirely is required for managing "proper" inventory limitations.
    I never said I used an additional account to manage storage, I said I had multiple accounts with maxed crafters and gatherers.

    I also said that I understand what its like to have to manage inventory because I've been playing so long.1.0

    I also said that it is way easier than it used to be (assuming your generous comment is pertaining to this)


    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    I know it might be hard to grasp the concept, but these forums are for players to give feedback and have discussions.


    It's up to SE to decide whether it's merely "Whining" or if it has merit. Not some random whale with a holier than thou attitude.
    I know it might be a hard concept to grasp, but I actually said I agree we need more storage (if you read my posts in this thread at all) but I think it would be better served elsewhere than a free retainer.

    Like a glamour log/book that auto unlocks the glam when you loot said item. The dresser can stay with plates or this can replace it entirely, all we would need is the prism's bing bang boom. This fixes the gear hoarding

    (I have 1 retainer on each account with glam gear also, I get it)

    They can also add all the Savage/EX/Trial Currencies/totems to a tab instead also. (all of it coins etc etc)

    They can remove glam restrictions so that we dont have to keep 3 items with the same glam for dif jobs

    My point was the inventory management is not as "Terribly Limited" as you are making it out to be, nowhere near it lol....

    Anywho, I just think there are other BETTER options than giving me another retainer to micromanage and FREE
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    Last edited by SinisterJoints; 04-01-2020 at 09:14 AM.

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