Thread: Butt is flat again... Patch 5.15

Sometimes, I come to threads and see people self congratulating themselves by using some logical fallacy.

That said I am a bit annoyed about this, because it is causing odd body issues on characters in general. It was already an issue due to the way they set up the anatomy since the 2.0 release of the game. If the back/lats were in propelled proportion to your hips and pelvis there would be less arguments of "pancake booty" but because it is jarring often you'll get arguments wanting a butt slider. The fix looks worse at the moment because its also altering the thighs looking a bit warped.



If you don't care then no worries. I just don't understand the amount of body shaming going on in some of this thread. Reminds me of growing up as a child of mixed race where it was argued about certain anatomical features. "Should have been Whiter because your butt is big" and told to cover up more because I had a butt that was too "Black"

Now I see people looking to make horrible comments towards others for a butt that isn't even that big compared to some people in real life often ridiculed and body shamed, or memed about.

Don't tell us its a fuss about fictional stuff hiding behind your own passive aggressive actions and issues its pot calling the kettle black.


I just hope it goes out to the devs to just fix this, and I know they work hard and are prone to errors as well. I don't think staff really work to break things to upset their consumers and fans.

I'm just incredibly peeved they patched out an incredibly popular and sexy glamour, destroy an incredibly classy 'rings over ballroom gloves' look, while THIS var-chat blooper-tier chopping was the only thing NOT fixed with the copied factory gear

Originally Posted by ElazulHP

Part of me thinks that fixing clipping is just the justification for nerfing the butt.

Butt still works perfectly fine on the items it works on, just now it can only be viewed in it's fullness with in the tiny TINY pool of tops that allow the ruffle skirt to be viewed for absolutely no reason.

And on top of that, the ranged bottoms looks exactly like the 2B butt (just a tiny bit less stuck out) and were not touched at all.
Put your tinfoil away, humans are human and sometimes make mistakes.

The amount of "they did this deliberately! They wrecked the one thing we care about because they hate us!" is probably why they don't value feedback from the English forums.

They fixed a previous problem. The fix has introduced new problems.

Can't we just tell them "this new thing broke, can you fix it" and see what they do about it before fetching the pitchforks?

There's certainly no way the glitched legs are going to be left looking like that. I would expect it to be fixed in the next patch, hopefully with a bit more testing than it seems to have had the first time - but if it develops new and different glitches again, just post a bug report. They've worked out how to provide a thing we asked for (actual skin-toned stockings) which may be crashing into one of their other systems.

And for those accusing SE of putting time and effort into "ruining" the 2B pants for you? I suspect it's the opposite: they took what they thought was a shortcut by simply making it turn off existing parts of the model when worn under longer gear. Most likely the fault - as with the Quaintrelle's skirt - is how they define longer gear. Nobody decided it should display like that with specific equipment; it's a decision made possibly years ago that waist decorations won't be visible under that chest gear.

Also, it's possible that the person adjusting the model has different priorities to you. Say they were handed the instructions "stop this from clipping through the wedding dress, and make the stockings transparent" (both issues formally filed as bug reports on the forums). They did that job as instructed, they fixed the known bug, and they certainly didn't do it to spite you all.

If they actually wanted to ruin it, they would have done it to the base model, not just what it does when combined with gear.

Originally Posted by Iscah

The amount of "they did this deliberately! They wrecked the one thing we care about because they hate us!" is probably why they don't value feedback from the English forums.

They fixed a previous problem. The fix has introduced new problems.

Can't we just tell them "this new thing broke, can you fix it" and see what they do about it before fetching the pitchforks?

Are you asking people to think logically and be make sane comments ? This is just too much. I want what I want and I want it now.

Originally Posted by Iscah

The amount of "they did this deliberately! They wrecked the one thing we care about because they hate us!" is probably why they don't value feedback from the English forums.

Exactly. Me getting replies like this.. THIS:

Originally Posted by plasmacutter

Coming to a thread where the majority want this regression fixed and claiming "the butt was never intended" is gaslighting.

Watch out everybody! You post a differing opinion from the majority you are breaking the ToS! These are the English forums.

Originally Posted by Iscah

They fixed a previous problem. The fix has introduced new problems.

Can't we just tell them "this new thing broke, can you fix it" and see what they do about it before fetching the pitchforks?

There's certainly no way the glitched legs are going to be left looking like that. I would expect it to be fixed in the next patch, hopefully with a bit more testing than it seems to have had the first time - but if it develops new and different glitches again, just post a bug report. They've worked out how to provide a thing we asked for (actual skin-toned stockings) which may be crashing into one of their other systems.

And for those accusing SE of putting time and effort into "ruining" the 2B pants for you? I suspect it's the opposite: they took what they thought was a shortcut by simply making it turn off existing parts of the model when worn under longer gear. Most likely the fault - as with the Quaintrelle's skirt - is how they define longer gear. Nobody decided it should display like that with specific equipment; it's a decision made possibly years ago that waist decorations won't be visible under that chest gear.

Also, it's possible that the person adjusting the model has different priorities to you. Say they were handed the instructions "stop this from clipping through the wedding dress, and make the stockings transparent" (both issues formally filed as bug reports on the forums). They did that job as instructed, they fixed the known bug, and they certainly didn't do it to spite you all.

The butt is still there on everything, but long tops. This was a fix from probably a utilitarian perspective. They were probably told, bug reports of clipping, so they make the butt not clip. I completely agree.

Oh wait, I can't post that. I am still "gas lighting" I suppose.

Originally Posted by Iscah

If they actually wanted to ruin it, they would have done it to the base model, not just what it does when combined with gear.

Here ya go with making perfect sense and providing facts and logic. That kind of talk isn't normal 'round these parts.