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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Calling your bias, and requesting calculation on how many GCDs that 2% difference in damage makes.

    If extra Tenacity only maybe saves the very occasional heal cast, I'd be willing to suspect extra Direct Hit only maybe saves you an occasional extra attack.

    Basically, if your claim were flipped around, would it still hold just as true? "You gain mitigation, but lose enough damage to maybe require an extra hit from time to time to compensate."

    Or, shorter, "The difference is minimal and rarely effects any outcome in the majority of content."
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...on-vs-Tank-DPS.

    It's actually 1 in 17 heals at best.

    Because of how mitigation stacks in this game:

    In terms of raid tanking: A hit that does 160k pre-mitigation will do 128k to a tank. It will do 89.8k to a tank that uses a cooldown. It will do 85.1k to a tank that has stacked tenacity and popped a cooldown.

    The actual effect of the most tenacity you can stack in this patch is, in practice, 15% of the value of the tank passive.

    It takes roughly 700k base damage incoming to a tank using a single cooldown for the maximum amount of tenacity currently available to save one 700 potency heal.

    This also ignores all incidental healing the tank will be taking. It also ignores heals that heal differently than x potency heal. It's the best case scenario for when tenacity is good.

    I'm not saying the idea of tenacity isn't good. My tank in EQ takes 700k pre mitigation damage every 5-15 seconds when tanking. Id take 14s tenacity over half the stats on his gear. I'm saying it's not good in this game because damage packets dont work the way they need to for it to be good without significantly more mitigation on it.

    If it doesnt realistically affect how a healer heals you, or how 2 healers time their cooldowns, its worse than just taking the damage boost.
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    Last edited by Barraind; 11-09-2019 at 02:14 AM.