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    Change Enchanted Reprise's description

    The description of Red Mage's Enchanted Reprise should be changed to "Delivers a ranged unaspected attack with a potency of 250."

    The usage of Enchanted Reprise is not intuitive for inexperienced Red Mage players. Every ability before that used black and white mana had been melee attacks. Logically it's easy to think that the new ability obtained at level 76, E-Reprise, would also be a melee attack. This is worsened by the fact that normal Reprise is indeed a melee attack. The usage of Enchanted Reprise has been one of the most commonly asked questions in Red Mage communities by newer players, and this change to the description would help make the ability more intuitive.
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    If you change the description to that, it becomes even more misleading because that description (delivers an attack) implies physical damage while the current one (deals unaspected damage) implies magical damage, which all Enchanted Weaponskills deal. I advise anyone who has issues with the skill to read the tooltip in its entirety, or to watch the RDM section of the job action trailer.
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    I do agree that it's a bit unintuitive. This is made worse when you consider that the unenchanted version is a melee attack only, so if you went to try out the skill at a dummy, you might not see that it's ranged. The only part of the skill that shows this is outside of the actual description where it states that it has a 25 yalm range, something you might not pay attention to if you see a skill like this and just think, okay, yeah. I got it.

    I remember thinking initially that it was meant to be a skill you weave into your melee combo rather than a skill for movement phases.
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    The only part of the skill that shows this is outside of the actual description where it states that it has a 25 yalm range
    Yeah, it does state the range, but given the other factors, evidently it is extremely easy to dismiss it. This is why the redundancy in abilities such as Tomahawk is helpful.
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    it becomes even more misleading because that description (delivers an attack) implies physical damage while the current one (deals unaspected damage) implies magical damage, which all Enchanted Weaponskills deal
    I believe "Delivers a ranged unaspected attack with a potency of 250" is not misleading in regards to magical or physical damage
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    Huh... I look at skills and I'm just 70 rdm, I assumed it was melee range too so dude gots a point it's misleading
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneTrueMiqote View Post
    I believe "Delivers a ranged unaspected attack with a potency of 250" is not misleading in regards to magical or physical damage
    Except that the only other skill that uses similar phrasing is Dragonfire Dive, which does Physical Fire damage. If anyone has trouble with Reprise they can just hit P, scroll down to the Enchanted Weaponskills, and find the range on the tooltip. The info's all there and is fine as is.
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    The fact that it's a ranged ability is already in the tooltip. It doesn't need to say it twice.
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    It is really not intuitive. I also wondered what the skill is good for and asked an experienced savage raiding Red Mage - and he didn't know either, despite his 90% logs xD

    However, I eventually figured it out when I was reading the tooltip again after I don't know how often times that the range is bigger.

    A more clear description would be nice, maybe you should open another topic about it in the Localization Forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    It is really not intuitive.
    Every single damage skill in the game is notated the same way, with a single exception of Dragonfire Dive that adds fire-type damage to the description because that isn't indicated anywhere else in the tooltip. What's not intuitive about 25y range being explicitly listed in the tooltip like with every other ranged skill in game? Adding the word "ranged" to the text a dozen pixels away from that doesn't make it more descriptive than it already is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    I also wondered what the skill is good for and asked an experienced savage raiding Red Mage - and he didn't know either, despite his 90% logs xD
    This is because the skill is mostly pointless and doesn't need to be used to do well as a RDM. It's just RDM's version of Scathe but with an additional cost: a filler attack for when you have to spend more than a full GCD without casting but the target is still available. I use it maybe once or twice a fight at most.
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